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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8th

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1947.

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying disc has been found and

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is now in the possession of the army if

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the game is rigged

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change the game game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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threat

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year 1985

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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good evening fade to black

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bespoke radio

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masses yeah man how you doing

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how you doing today is wednesday

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december 2nd

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2020.

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337 days into the new year

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only 29 days left

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wow we are live from a bunker a bunker

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that is somewhere in the middle of

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beautiful downtown burbank california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening

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all around the world all across the

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united states

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hither and tether to and throw back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far

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and near this is fade to black for kjcr

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the game changer network

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and kgra the planet

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i'm murals jimmy church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing

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how you doing night night

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here we go tonight

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have very special guests richard bleepin

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dolan that's right richard dolan is here

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going to announce the publishing of his

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new book

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the alien agendas i've read it

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yep it's out now you can get it we'll

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talk about all of that tonight

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and then tomorrow night is our annual

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linda multan howe holiday special

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what a great week on the show man vader

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night last night was amazing

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that was just kyle conkel right on

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monday

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what a great show oh man

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and uh so there you go what a great week

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tonight richard dolan is here

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always uh uh just enjoy it when he

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when he's with us we've done so many

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shows over the years

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so uh and it's um richard dolan's got a

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new book out

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let's see the last book

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he's probably listening right now he's

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just like don't do it timmy but i

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am i'm gonna say it i i believe

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the last book that he released

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was my first interview with him eight

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think about that for a second man he

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published his book like books like

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pink floyd releases records they're guns

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and roses

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okay all right enough of that richard

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dolan is here really looking forward to

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it tomorrow night

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lmh holiday special that is tomorrow

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night

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and then we get to wrap up for the

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weekend and

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there you go richard will be with us at

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the bottom of the hour

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and uh there you go i mentioned last

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night

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uh a few things now uh i i want you guys

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to realize something this show

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everyone all right all right follow me

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start right there

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and uh let's see let's see what's going

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on over twitter did you see

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did you guys see awakening man he built

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his own monolith and and popped it up

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in the middle of his town up there

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a tascadero

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called the news there's a monolith in my

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yeah yeah check out the pics it's uh

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it's pretty cool pretty amazing

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what's the uh is that channel three news

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oh that's a fake news channel channel is

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there a channel

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three isn't that fa isn't channel three

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for tv right or channel one news

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is there a channel three maybe an

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there you go but there it is there it is

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and uh and eric you got a nice backyard

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that's uh pretty cool so the local news

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showed up did they interview you

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everybody you can go and check it out

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right now i posted it up in

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i said how long did it take you to build

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that thing man before he called the news

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he's like two days

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two days all right so uh yeah go and

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check that out follow me on twitter at

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j church radio hashtag f2b is the

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sandbox

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and of course uh we have two chat rooms

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over at spreaker hello corolla there's

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bogey how you doing uh

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there there's somebody called 420 i

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or somebody in the chat room named 420

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on this show wow going downhill man

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going downhill but uh everybody is

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hanging out so you can go over to the

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chat rooms when it's spreaker went over

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a kg r a the planet hello to everybody

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all right uh i think we're on ubn

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um anybody that's watching over on the

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united broadcasting network

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right are we on ubn tonight right

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somebody tweet me go over to ubn and see

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if we're on the air

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tony sweet my man

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all right all right let's see where i'm

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let's get to the breaking news got a lot

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of it today

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holy crap by rock obama

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barack the 44th commander-in-chief

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nestled between 43 and 45 number 44

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colbert that he sought classified

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his time in the oval office i'm not

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making this up i've

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now i've got a bunch of quotes here

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because colbert brings up ufos right

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a promised land right but not with

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cobara goes

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i think colbert replies with all right

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i'll take that for a yes because if

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you'd say there was none you just played

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obama and i thought you were a poker

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was there a hidden message the thing is

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right you just go straight there you

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just go president of the united states

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you carry that title for life but

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even though he's not currently in the

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these shows are planned in advance

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he is this was this was all done with

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there's a secret mess

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no i'm just saying this was done with

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intention so if you haven't seen the

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clip the rest of the interview uh i

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didn't want to give that away

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is worth checking out all right ah

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elon musk elon musk oh before i get

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um no i'm going to go with elon next

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elon was just speaking

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quote highly confident that spacex will

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be able to send humans to mars by 2026

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if not earlier here's elon's quote

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quote i'm doing this for lmh elon's

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we want to send an uncrewed vehicle

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there in two

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years talking about mars i think if you

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said we'll put a human on mars in six

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i'd say i'm highly confident

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then he continues with and if we get

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four years and then elon continues he

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says i think it's important

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that we strive to have self-sustaining

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cities on mars as soon as possible

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i'm optimistic about the future of earth

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i think it's important to have life

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insurance

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for life as a whole we got to have an

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escape hatch we got to start living

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on mars he's talking about the moon too

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he wants a city on the moon

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a town more like a town right a bus stop

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uh on the moon but he wants to have a

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full-on you know city scape couple of

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one the you know you know what i mean

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the blue one

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maybe the silver you know you know what

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i'm saying

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you start you build it fresh um have you

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guys seen mars

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the tv series ron howard it's pretty

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good check it out

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all right now let's move on to

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astronomers in

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mapped 83 percent

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of the observable universe and they did

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it all

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in just 300 hours that's a lot of

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mapping

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this new sky survey which australia's

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national science

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agency called zero described

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as it's the google map of the universe

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that's right it marks the completion of

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a big test for the australian square

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kilometer array pathfinder otherwise

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known as ascap

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not not the music publishing company

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it's another one it's called ascap

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the ascap radio telescope a network of

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36 antennas in the western australia

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outback now researchers mapped roughly

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three million galaxies in the southern

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sky

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and published on november 30th in the

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journal publications of

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astronomical society of australia now

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as many as one million of these

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distant galaxies were previously

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unknown to astronomy now how cool is

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that but we're only talking about

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the observable what you can see the

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observable universe

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okay you gotta remember that how long

323
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does it take light to get here

324
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uh we're talking about 90

325
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they're getting you know 93 billion

326
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light years across but

327
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the the universe is only 13.8 billion

328
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so how can you have 93 billion light

329
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years across

330
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if the earth that's the observable right

331
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we don't even know what's on the outside

332
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of that that's all guesstimates

333
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yeah think about it yeah so really three

334
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million galaxies when there is at least

335
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a trillion not much but they got it done

336
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in 300 hours all right

337
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let's talk about the marijuana

338
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the marijuana a united nations panel

339
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has voted to remove medical cannabis

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from a list of dangerous drugs

341
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that's right earlier today the

342
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commission for narcotic drugs

343
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voted on several world health

344
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organizations the who

345
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recommendations related to pot

346
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among them was a recommendation that

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we'd be

348
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stricken from schedule four that's right

349
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of the 1961

350
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single convention on narcotic drugs

351
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the list currently puts cannabis

352
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alongside drugs like

353
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hey wrong cocaine

354
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fentanyl that's right

355
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since 1961 the mary jane

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a separate recommendation to add

357
00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:05,360
byproducts like

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thc right to the lower

359
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the lower level the schedule one level

360
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that failed you can officially blame

361
00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:19,440
that on china egypt

362
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nigeria pakistan

363
00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:25,679
and russia that's right

364
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let's get this show cracking happy

365
00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:29,520
birthday to today

366
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i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do it i'm

367
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gonna do it

368
00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:42,870
this thing on britney spears

369
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today is 39. she's been 39 for like 10

370
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years but

371
00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:49,360
let's just stick to it today britney

372
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spears is 39

373
00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:53,919
nelly furtado today

374
00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:56,960
name one nelly furtado song nelly

375
00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:57,760
furtado

376
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today is 42. def

377
00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:05,840
leppard o g bassist rick savage

378
00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:09,120
today is 60. i

379
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:13,200
saw wow i was probably

380
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16 the math checks out because i'm 57

381
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:19,919
right i was 16 15

382
00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:23,840
16 years old i saw blizzard revives with

383
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randy rhodes at the circle theater

384
00:22:33,190 --> 00:22:29,600
in indianapolis 1980 right

385
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1980 wasn't even 81 1980

386
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:36,640
and and i believe everybody in def

387
00:22:40,310 --> 00:22:39,039
leppard that opened ferrazzi on that

388
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:40,320
show there's like

389
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:43,039
300 people there by the way everybody in

390
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:46,080
def lover was like 18.

391
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,320
and he's 60. and it just makes sense i'm

392
00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:50,400
57 he'd start doing the math i'm like

393
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:51,600
wow

394
00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:55,679
i guess so rick savage is 60 years old i

395
00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:57,600
cannot believe it we were both teenagers

396
00:23:01,029 --> 00:22:58,400
together

397
00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:01,039
for a moment at the circle theater all

398
00:23:05,039 --> 00:23:10,149
spears 39

399
00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:12,549
yeah jack benny was 39 for a long time i

400
00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:13,679
know i know

401
00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:16,640
i'm with that nelly furtado i'm like a

402
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:17,679
bird

403
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:20,400
man eater the donkey song very good

404
00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:23,520
brandon i would have i remember the uh

405
00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:25,679
i'm like a bird yeah that's the one that

406
00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:26,880
i remember

407
00:23:32,230 --> 00:23:30,159
i'm sorry this one is at the house of

408
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:32,240
representatives is that a is that a

409
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:33,919
nelly for tattle song

410
00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:37,200
could be that's from uh john frankie's

411
00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:38,400
four fingers

412
00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:42,080
um okay where am i at let's see

413
00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:45,039
nelly furtado uh oh our dead guy's

414
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:48,159
birthday today razzle

415
00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:51,279
razzle 1969 to 1984 died at the age of

416
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:52,159
24.

417
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:54,240
of course razzle was the english drummer

418
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:55,279
of the finnish band

419
00:24:02,310 --> 00:23:58,320
hanoi rocks from 1982

420
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:02,320
until his death in late 1984 hanoi rocks

421
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:04,559
was on their first american tour front

422
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,200
man michael monroe fractured an ankle

423
00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:09,360
so the band had to skip a few gigs and

424
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:11,120
they took a break right here in los

425
00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:14,080
angeles california during that break

426
00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:17,360
motley cruise singer vince neil invited

427
00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:18,000
the band to

428
00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:20,080
visit his home in redondo beach

429
00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:21,360
california

430
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:24,799
neil and razzle both drunk went to a

431
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:26,240
nearby liquor store

432
00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:30,000
in neil's pantera with neil driving

433
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:32,080
on the way back they crashed into

434
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:33,440
another car

435
00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:35,440
razzle was rushed to the hospital and

436
00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:36,799
pronounced dead he

437
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:40,880
died instantly in the collision

438
00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:44,159
and uh the rock world changed that day

439
00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:47,679
hanoi rocks well still is michael monroe

440
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:49,600
that was a band

441
00:25:00,950 --> 00:24:57,120
on this day in history 1942 physicist

442
00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:00,960
enrico fermi produces the first nuclear

443
00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:02,320
chain reaction

444
00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:05,919
in his laboratory beneath the bleachers

445
00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:09,200
of stag field at the university of

446
00:25:14,710 --> 00:25:10,640
chicago

447
00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:14,720
on this day otd fader fact

448
00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:18,159
north korea only uses

449
00:25:25,269 --> 00:25:21,520
its own smartphones

450
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:25,279
on their own government network

451
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:28,320
no internet users

452
00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:30,880
have to download apps at a

453
00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:32,080
government-owned

454
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:35,600
store that's right where they can

455
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:39,919
only get government apps

456
00:25:46,870 --> 00:25:45,360
on their chinese-made iphone knockoffs

457
00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:46,880
and that's your fader fact they don't

458
00:25:58,310 --> 00:25:55,510
can you imagine right i mean so

459
00:25:59,669 --> 00:25:58,320
closed down in north korea so closed

460
00:26:03,510 --> 00:25:59,679
down that you don't even

461
00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:03,520
know you don't know about facebook

462
00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:06,559
you probably never even heard a rumor

463
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:09,200
about facebook you don't know about

464
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:10,559
twitter you don't know about the

465
00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:12,240
internet

466
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:15,039
you don't know about google you don't

467
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:16,320
know nothing

468
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:18,880
right and you think it's cool that you

469
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:19,520
got this

470
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:22,320
cell phone and you can go down and get

471
00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:23,039
these things

472
00:26:26,390 --> 00:26:25,200
apps that the government makes for you

473
00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:26,400
you know to track you

474
00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:28,960
and stuff but and you think how

475
00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:30,640
fantastical that is

476
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:34,640
but you have no idea you have no idea

477
00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:37,679
about the internet you've never been red

478
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:38,320
pilled

479
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:40,400
on the internet you've never blocked

480
00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:41,520
someone

481
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:46,000
you know you don't know how crazy is

482
00:26:50,830 --> 00:26:47,039
that

483
00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:50,840
all right all right uh

484
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:55,760
listen i often talk about writing a book

485
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:58,320
and i think about it i do i do i i ran

486
00:27:00,870 --> 00:27:00,320
it past rita a few months ago she's like

487
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:00,880
what

488
00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:04,000
you write a book come on man and you

489
00:27:08,630 --> 00:27:05,440
know so you know i'm brought

490
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:08,640
back down to level um back down to earth

491
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:10,640
but after reading richard dolan's new

492
00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:13,120
book the alien agendas it makes me think

493
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:13,440
that

494
00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:15,840
maybe i should actually get serious

495
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:17,120
about it because richard's a great

496
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:18,720
writer it's a great book and

497
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:20,000
you know you just start reading that and

498
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:21,600
you're like man i got something to say

499
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:22,799
right

500
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:25,039
and i've got so much respect for anyone

501
00:27:28,950 --> 00:27:26,880
who pulls it off because so much time

502
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:28,960
goes into publishing the research the

503
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:30,000
editing

504
00:27:33,669 --> 00:27:32,320
and you know the time that you have to

505
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:33,679
actually sit

506
00:27:39,029 --> 00:27:36,720
typing right it's a huge project

507
00:27:41,350 --> 00:27:39,039
i don't know how they pull it off but

508
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:41,360
here's the deal

509
00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:44,559
a book about my life i guess that would

510
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:45,520
be boring

511
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:47,120
not much there really nobody gives a

512
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:48,880
crap right okay so

513
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:51,840
what would i write about you know it

514
00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:53,520
feels like there is

515
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:00,269
so if you take the

516
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:02,799
individual events in my life forget

517
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,159
about i was born in

518
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:06,480
you know and then i went to school there

519
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:08,159
you know forget about all that stuff no

520
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:09,360
nobody cares

521
00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:11,440
saw van halen for the first time man and

522
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:13,760
it was so cool nobody cares about that

523
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,559
but if you take the individual events in

524
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:18,240
my life that involve

525
00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:21,520
ufos contact the paranormal

526
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:29,990
each one is different and then you

527
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:33,200
take these events and then apply

528
00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:36,640
some science and research to each case

529
00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:40,480
maybe we've got something here

530
00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:44,799
so i kind of wrote out a short list

531
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:48,000
so let me let me run this past you

532
00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:51,600
all right because

533
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:54,799
we have uh in this timeline

534
00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:58,320
right we have the electrical shocks

535
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:01,520
during sunday morning church tv

536
00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:03,120
that i went through when i was seven

537
00:29:08,549 --> 00:29:06,720
years old there's something there

538
00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:08,559
i don't know what it is but there's

539
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:10,480
something there

540
00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:14,080
and then we have the the zeppelin

541
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:17,520
right when uh when i was nine

542
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:20,320
the zeppelin event something there that

543
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:22,399
has nothing to do do they relate i don't

544
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:25,120
know maybe i don't know

545
00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:27,120
we have the ghost that i saw in

546
00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:28,559
hollywood

547
00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:31,600
when i was 27. yeah

548
00:29:34,470 --> 00:29:32,960
across the street from the church of

549
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:34,480
scientology by the way but that's

550
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:36,480
another story

551
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:39,520
maybe we have the visitor

552
00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:44,240
in my room at the age of 33

553
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:47,760
connected i don't know we have the black

554
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:51,039
triangle in monterey i got a picture of

555
00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:53,120
that man i got a picture of it

556
00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:56,480
and that's when i was 35 related to the

557
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:56,799
vis

558
00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:59,600
i don't know i don't know related to the

559
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:01,039
electrical shocks could be

560
00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:04,640
i don't know they seem all different

561
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:08,480
right we have the ufo crash with rita we

562
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:09,600
saw this together

563
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:13,440
in in downtown van nuys

564
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:17,360
back in 2008 that was crazy other

565
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:19,840
eyewitnesses other things that went down

566
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:23,120
contacted mufon right what was

567
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:25,919
that had nothing to do with the black

568
00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:27,919
triangle right the visitor of my room or

569
00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:29,679
the ghost in hollywood or the zeppelin

570
00:30:34,470 --> 00:30:31,440
when i was nine or the electrical shot

571
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:34,480
these are all individual events then you

572
00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:36,480
can even jump forward and go hey what

573
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about

574
00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:41,120
what's going on with that

575
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:43,120
maybe people need to know this stuff man

576
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:44,640
maybe there's something

577
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:48,240
there those aren't related

578
00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:49,919
they're not they're just not related and

579
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:52,960
then what about what about the bigfoot

580
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:56,320
print the bigfoot footprints the big

581
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:58,960
foot the big feet footprints i don't

582
00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:00,240
know how to say that

583
00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:02,559
what about that those aren't related or

584
00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:04,799
are they

585
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:10,320
i don't know then we have the beer can

586
00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:13,440
we have the beer can and uh and

587
00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:15,679
what's really strange so i mean is that

588
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:16,640
a book

589
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you see each situation is just different

590
00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:22,960
from the other they're not the same

591
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strange right

592
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:26,000
all in one life that's kind of crazy

593
00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:27,440
it's almost unbelievable

594
00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:29,840
thank goodness pretty much except for

595
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the zeppelin and the electrical shocks

596
00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:32,000
but

597
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:37,120
there were people that can back this

598
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:37,919
stuff up

599
00:31:45,350 --> 00:31:42,080
that's cool but is there enough here

600
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:45,360
is that a book and bring in experts and

601
00:31:49,430 --> 00:31:46,080
maybe some

602
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:49,440
analysis because

603
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:52,559
i read richard's book today and i gotta

604
00:31:55,269 --> 00:31:53,200
tell you

605
00:31:57,029 --> 00:31:55,279
i want to write i want a book like

606
00:32:01,190 --> 00:31:57,039
richard

607
00:32:04,710 --> 00:32:01,200
i want that respect look is good

608
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:04,720
it's good it's good it inspired me

609
00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:06,559
and i i don't know maybe there's

610
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:07,760
something there

611
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:10,559
maybe not i've told the story so much

612
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:12,240
but that's here on the air

613
00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:14,640
you know is is there is there a way to

614
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:15,440
go deeper

615
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:17,519
with all of this i'll throw it out there

616
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:18,640
to you guys do you

617
00:32:25,509 --> 00:32:22,240
think there is enough there

618
00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:25,519
right all right so uh so

619
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is you challenged her did you get docked

620
00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:31,760
is that is that to me i have no idea

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this is fade to black i am your host

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jimmy church tonight

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the one and only richard bleep and dolan

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the new book is out it is called

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the alien agenda za

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plural i'll be right back after this

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short break i'm yours jimmy church

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on the game changer network in kgra

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the planet follow me on twitter i just

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that's right rich not richard rich

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dolan i'll be right back after this

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and kgra the planet

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738
00:38:04,150 --> 00:37:50,000
you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

739
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:04,160
church radio

740
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welcome back fade to black i gotta get

741
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ready richard dolan is here i gotta

742
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stretch

743
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do some aerobics ah man i gotta

744
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i gotta get ready richard is here

745
00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:22,880
tomorrow night linda moulton howe

746
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joining us for our annual lmh

747
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holiday special well tonight i guess

748
00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:30,839
tonight's our

749
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annual richard dolan holiday special we

750
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can do that too

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richard and linda back to back same week

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doesn't get any better than that folks

753
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:43,040
all right tonight we're talking about

754
00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:44,880
the new publication of his book it's

755
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called the alien agendas a speculative

756
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:51,359
analysis of those visiting earth now we

757
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:52,800
all know richard is one of the leading

758
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:54,560
researchers and writers on the subject

759
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:55,520
of ufos

760
00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:58,160
sometimes the books are a little slow

761
00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:00,320
coming out but when they do

762
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:02,560
they're great and they he believes that

763
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:03,440
all of this

764
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constitute the greatest mystery of our

765
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:06,720
time

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of course completed has graduated i just

767
00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:11,280
graduated

768
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:14,560
richard why do you make me nervous man

769
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:16,560
i can't even get through your bio

770
00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:22,950
what's up okay hold on hold on richard

771
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:24,800
let me let me try this once again

772
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:27,200
graduate work diversity of rochester oh

773
00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:28,640
by the way last night i'm watching a

774
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:30,400
documentary richard

775
00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:34,560
um on it was on

776
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:38,079
uh oh it was on uh a a painting

777
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:41,280
uh leonardo da vinci the second

778
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:43,040
mona lisa i didn't know that there was

779
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two right

780
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:47,839
um but the researcher that was

781
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:51,359
analyzing the pigments university of

782
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:52,640
rochester

783
00:39:58,069 --> 00:39:55,119
how crazy is that right i was like wow

784
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:01,910
you don't find it strange

785
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:03,349
oh are you talking to me yeah i'm

786
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:05,599
talking to you richard university am i

787
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on

788
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:10,400
yes okay i'll kill you

789
00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:13,520
oh this is great anyway uh u.s coldly

790
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:15,200
had no idea that i was live with you

791
00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:17,200
yes you are live right now and this is

792
00:40:20,069 --> 00:40:18,560
yeah look first of all we got to give

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you a new introduction to reid because

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that's

795
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know what but see the thing is

796
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:26,720
everybody knows the introduction right

797
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:28,079
we've been it's true it's like the

798
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:28,800
standard

799
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:30,880
you roll it out yeah you know if i write

800
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:32,079
it myself

801
00:40:37,349 --> 00:40:35,200
um this is the thing let's say you did

802
00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:37,359
you presented and i did a little edit

803
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:38,560
and we trimmed up you know what

804
00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:40,000
twitter's gonna do

805
00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:43,280
oh they got a new intro for richard

806
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:44,960
here's the thing like i've actually

807
00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:46,400
written out a bunch of

808
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:48,400
super short concise intros i'm just

809
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:50,000
gonna give you one

810
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:53,119
save you some time yeah i look i read uh

811
00:40:58,150 --> 00:40:56,240
the about the author you know

812
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:58,160
at the end of the new book right oh

813
00:41:02,230 --> 00:40:59,920
right yeah right and i read that

814
00:41:04,829 --> 00:41:02,240
and i'm like this is exactly the same as

815
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:04,839
the intro that i've been doing for eight

816
00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:13,670
i don't always do this when i'm on your

817
00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:15,200
show but i was listening to your whole

818
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:16,319
first segment

819
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:19,680
okay and um you're hilarious

820
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:22,800
really big foot big feets that was

821
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:23,359
pretty good

822
00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:26,000
yeah yeah i'm coming down with covid so

823
00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:28,160
maybe

824
00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:33,200
to do with that i kid everybody

825
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:35,359
i kid i can't i'm talking about britney

826
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:36,240
spears and

827
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:38,560
nelly furtado yeah right coming out of

828
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:39,599
the blue with that

829
00:41:43,109 --> 00:41:42,160
yeah yeah pretty good well okay nice

830
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:43,119
segue there

831
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:45,680
nice segue what was the last thing you

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listened to today

833
00:41:50,790 --> 00:41:49,520
last piece of music yes indeed well i

834
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:50,800
can answer that and i'm going to do it

835
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:52,720
by giving you a riddle

836
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:54,480
which i've also never done this is a new

837
00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:56,880
twist to our relationship

838
00:42:03,030 --> 00:41:59,920
got to keep it fresh that's right so the

839
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:03,040
the song was the first

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00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:07,359
track of what many would argue is the

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greatest

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00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:12,000
any band in rock history

843
00:42:17,990 --> 00:42:15,040
you listen to

844
00:42:19,109 --> 00:42:18,000
uh communication breakdown led zeppelin

845
00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:19,119
well first of all

846
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:21,839
write group wrong song oh you gotta get

847
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848
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wasn't communication breakdown the the

849
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:27,520
first song on the first album on the

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00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:29,359
first side that was good times bad

851
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:32,960
good times bad times okay all right

852
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:34,480
but i'm gonna give you a little like a

853
00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:36,800
little bonus there but it did i

854
00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:39,040
that was pretty good though i gotta say

855
00:42:43,589 --> 00:42:40,079
i was i was

856
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:43,599
i was in i was in the room i was in the

857
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:44,079
car

858
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,839
i'm gonna give you that yes anyway so

859
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:47,520
yes i heard good times bad times not

860
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:48,880
very long ago

861
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:50,560
that was my last song you know what i

862
00:42:57,750 --> 00:42:53,200
listened to today

863
00:43:00,630 --> 00:42:57,760
i listened to kenneth copeland

864
00:43:01,430 --> 00:43:00,640
wow yeah that's right the preacher man

865
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:01,440
fancy pants

866
00:43:05,109 --> 00:43:03,440
yeah the sunday morning preacher man

867
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:05,119
right kenneth copeland

868
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:07,520
uh his new heavy metal album that he's

869
00:43:10,390 --> 00:43:09,040
got out have you heard it oh i'm

870
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:10,400
thinking of aaron copeland

871
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:13,200
no i'm not aaron goblin no i'm talking

872
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:15,520
about the preacher man

873
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:17,520
yeah okay never mind kenneth copeland's

874
00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:19,359
got a heavy metal album out

875
00:43:26,069 --> 00:43:22,240
have you heard it i'm very happy for him

876
00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:26,079
i don't know

877
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:28,000
man go check out my twitter feed very

878
00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:29,200
good yeah you need to go

879
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:31,040
it's actually brilliant it's actually

880
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:32,400
brilliant okay

881
00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:35,760
now let's um uh let's actually jump into

882
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:36,800
this

883
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:40,079
okay uh the book is great but

884
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:43,440
isn't it funny that i've given you a

885
00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:44,560
hard time

886
00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:46,640
over over the years about you know the

887
00:43:51,030 --> 00:43:47,599
new book the new book

888
00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:51,040
you know it's funny haha but

889
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:54,160
it's been eight years it's been eight

890
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:55,040
years since

891
00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:58,160
21st century mind did you know that this

892
00:44:06,550 --> 00:43:58,400
is

893
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:06,560
so if we go 2013 2014 15 16 17

894
00:44:10,309 --> 00:44:09,599
18 19 20. it's been a while that's eight

895
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:10,319
years

896
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:13,680
and uh i thought it was 2014.

897
00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:17,440
okay but okay okay richard maybe i keep

898
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:19,359
telling myself it's 2014 just to make it

899
00:44:23,829 --> 00:44:20,319
a little more recent

900
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:23,839
and that was the release of that book

901
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:26,880
was our first interview

902
00:44:30,309 --> 00:44:28,640
that's right and remember it well and

903
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,319
it's taken this long

904
00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:32,880
and look how much more polished we are

905
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:33,359
all right

906
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:35,680
okay i did write a couple of little

907
00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:36,960
booklets in there but

908
00:44:39,990 --> 00:44:38,480
maybe they don't count right the

909
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:40,000
pamphlets the the

910
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:43,280
those were good actually the pamphlets

911
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:46,480
oh man but okay now

912
00:44:50,950 --> 00:44:49,839
um uh in in right like i didn't i didn't

913
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:50,960
write anything large

914
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:53,359
uh anything long no and even this

915
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:55,520
particular book it's it's not a super

916
00:45:02,069 --> 00:44:59,040
long book it's about 245 250 pages

917
00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:02,079
uh but uh it is something i'm happy with

918
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:03,760
and i'll be happy to talk with you about

919
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:05,440
it one thing i'll say before

920
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:09,040
we jump in yes is that uh the book that

921
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:10,720
you've been really hounding me

922
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:12,720
to write right these years of volume

923
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:14,960
three of ufos in the national security

924
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:15,359
state

925
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:18,880
um i will just tell you for reasons

926
00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:20,079
unknown

927
00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:22,000
as soon as i finished writing the alien

928
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:23,200
agendas i

929
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:26,240
have thrown myself into

930
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:29,680
re re-jump starting volume three of my

931
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:30,720
series and um

932
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:33,440
actually it's been an amazing last few

933
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:35,200
weeks of doing that

934
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:38,640
so i'm organizing i have uh my data i'm

935
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:39,680
lining it up and i

936
00:45:42,790 --> 00:45:41,440
actually do expect to write that book in

937
00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:42,800
the coming year

938
00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:45,040
but we'll talk about that when it's

939
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:48,560
ready do you need a co-author

940
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:49,680
oh we're gonna have to talk about you

941
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:51,200
writing a book as well that was the

942
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:52,640
other thing on your

943
00:45:55,670 --> 00:45:54,319
oh yeah you caught that you caught that

944
00:45:58,230 --> 00:45:55,680
now i'm embarrassed

945
00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:58,240
um no no honestly i think you should

946
00:46:01,670 --> 00:45:59,760
write a book

947
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:01,680
i don't know if like a travelogue of

948
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:03,280
your cool

949
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:05,520
separate experiences is the route that i

950
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:06,960
would want to go

951
00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:09,440
were i you but maybe it would be like

952
00:46:11,829 --> 00:46:10,079
the key is

953
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:11,839
it's got to be interesting right you

954
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:13,440
have like if you've got these little

955
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:14,880
vignettes

956
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,960
of your life an interesting thing that's

957
00:46:20,710 --> 00:46:18,720
actually not bad but you've

958
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:20,720
really got to make each thing have

959
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:22,240
something uniquely interesting that

960
00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:23,760
breeders are going to be like wow i love

961
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:24,160
that

962
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:27,760
thing is you could write a book on

963
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:29,359
something that you really

964
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:32,560
genuinely care a lot about and then you

965
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:34,240
write that book with the blood in your

966
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:35,760
veins like that's how you do it

967
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:37,280
like it's got to be a work of passion

968
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:39,280
and something that you really care about

969
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:47,829
that would be that would be a book about

970
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:49,359
the ultimate

971
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:53,119
red pasta sauce great

972
00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:56,720
really honestly it doesn't to me

973
00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:58,720
there are great books on every subject

974
00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:00,560
out there yeah and the key is

975
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:02,079
you've got to have an interesting thing

976
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:03,839
to say about it that people will want to

977
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:05,040
hear

978
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:07,920
i agree i agree i agree i just look you

979
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:08,560
know

980
00:47:13,030 --> 00:47:10,480
when when i talked to rita about this i

981
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:13,040
want you're here to talk about your book

982
00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:15,760
but it was funny i i said to rita i had

983
00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:17,839
this uh crazy dream

984
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:20,240
um and i hate it when people go i had a

985
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:22,000
crazy dream i want to turn it into a

986
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:22,400
book

987
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:25,599
well no it's not that interesting but

988
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:28,800
but i did have this crazy dream about

989
00:47:36,309 --> 00:47:33,200
waking up as an android

990
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:36,319
eyes pop open right and

991
00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:39,200
and it got really detailed and it it i

992
00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:41,040
had a lump in my throat i was

993
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:43,760
sad and i was freaked out about the

994
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:44,880
whole experience

995
00:47:50,549 --> 00:47:47,920
and the emotion of what i went through

996
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:50,559
as an adult man of 57 i wake up and i

997
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:52,160
got tears in my eyes

998
00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:55,680
because i was so emotionally distraught

999
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:57,760
about about this experience but i

1000
00:48:02,069 --> 00:47:59,119
thought if there's a way to get

1001
00:48:02,950 --> 00:48:02,079
that right if there's a way to write

1002
00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:02,960
that

1003
00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:04,640
i think there's something there because

1004
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:06,559
it were like the tin man before he got

1005
00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:06,960
his heart

1006
00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:08,880
that's exactly what it was and it was

1007
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:10,480
wanting that emotion that's a that's

1008
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:11,280
beautiful

1009
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:14,160
now it's making me cry well see and

1010
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:14,800
there was a

1011
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:18,880
there's an element to this book um

1012
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:21,440
that as i was reading it richard i'm

1013
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:22,000
going to

1014
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:25,200
okay yes your book

1015
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,160
let's go to the end first the last 10

1016
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:30,000
pages

1017
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:33,520
um and and now there's no spoilers here

1018
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:35,280
everybody go and get the book the book

1019
00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:36,079
is great

1020
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:38,480
we'll talk about the the book but we're

1021
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:39,760
not

1022
00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:43,040
the book but in the

1023
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:46,880
end in your conclusion uh richard

1024
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:51,200
it seems that you were getting

1025
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:55,280
uh a little bit into your heart and soul

1026
00:49:02,069 --> 00:48:59,040
and your concern for the planet and

1027
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:02,079
uh and consciousness and our

1028
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:04,480
future and you were very passionate

1029
00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:05,440
about that

1030
00:49:10,309 --> 00:49:08,319
where in your books in the past have

1031
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:10,319
been more black and white and pragmatic

1032
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:12,000
and historical and

1033
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:13,839
and doc you know what i mean black and

1034
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:16,319
white and you started to go there

1035
00:49:20,069 --> 00:49:17,680
at the end of this book and i was like

1036
00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:20,079
man richard is richard's got some

1037
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:21,440
concerns going on

1038
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:24,160
uh for this planet right i wasn't

1039
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:26,640
imagining things was i

1040
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:28,160
well i don't know when i look at the

1041
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:30,640
conclusions of my previous books

1042
00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:33,359
i actually always made a point to speak

1043
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:36,000
from the heart in all of them

1044
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:37,359
i will tell you the truth when i

1045
00:49:42,390 --> 00:49:39,760
finished uh the final segment of volume

1046
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:42,400
2 of ufos and national security state i

1047
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:44,160
actually felt emotional after i wrote

1048
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:46,640
that that was important to me too

1049
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:49,040
but the the conclusion here is from my

1050
00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:49,760
heart

1051
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:52,720
and um i mean basically what i have

1052
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:54,079
argued in this book

1053
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:55,520
i mean i have a number of points that

1054
00:50:01,109 --> 00:49:57,599
i've made so one of the things is

1055
00:50:03,589 --> 00:50:01,119
you know i try to sit down and to

1056
00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:03,599
you know based on i mean admittedly what

1057
00:50:05,589 --> 00:50:04,640
some people are going to consider

1058
00:50:08,069 --> 00:50:05,599
sketchy

1059
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:08,079
data like you know alleged or apparent

1060
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:08,720
abductions

1061
00:50:14,069 --> 00:50:10,880
alleged or parent encounter experiences

1062
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:14,079
with with non-humans or aliens

1063
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:15,440
like a lot of people will have problems

1064
00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:16,800
with that and i've just decided to go

1065
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:18,240
with what i think is the best evidence

1066
00:50:22,150 --> 00:50:19,359
and to formulate

1067
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:22,160
hypotheses of the various groups but and

1068
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:23,680
we can talk about that but

1069
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:26,640
at the one of the main arguments that i

1070
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:27,680
have is

1071
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:29,760
they are here in force now for a

1072
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:31,040
specific reason

1073
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:33,440
like i do argue that we we have probably

1074
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:35,760
been monitored for our entire existence

1075
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:37,680
but i believe that that was at a

1076
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:39,520
relatively low level of monitoring

1077
00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:40,480
because frankly

1078
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:42,559
human society human civilization just

1079
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:43,920
wasn't all that

1080
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:46,000
much for them to be concerned about we

1081
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:47,440
were muddling along with

1082
00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:49,760
horses and wooden carts and we didn't

1083
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:51,119
really have any technology and

1084
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:52,400
there was nothing that they could really

1085
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:54,640
do with us but that's not true in the

1086
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:55,440
last

1087
00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:58,559
150 years where we really discovered the

1088
00:51:01,990 --> 00:51:00,240
secret of prometheus you know the fire

1089
00:51:04,150 --> 00:51:02,000
of prometheus which is science

1090
00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:04,160
and high technology and we're

1091
00:51:07,349 --> 00:51:05,760
leapfrogging over ourselves

1092
00:51:09,910 --> 00:51:07,359
to create a completely different world

1093
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:09,920
now unlike anything that's ever existed

1094
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:11,839
in the entire history of our species

1095
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:13,839
which we now believe is more than 300

1096
00:51:17,030 --> 00:51:15,520
000 years old at a minimum

1097
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:17,040
all right we've never ever been like

1098
00:51:23,829 --> 00:51:20,720
this so it's it's all new territory

1099
00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:23,839
and it is potentially of great power to

1100
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:25,119
us as a species

1101
00:51:28,390 --> 00:51:26,480
i think as individuals we're all going

1102
00:51:30,710 --> 00:51:28,400
to be losing a lot of power but as a

1103
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,720
species collectively

1104
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:32,400
uh it's going to be very different we're

1105
00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:33,440
combining a lot of different

1106
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:34,720
technologies and this

1107
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:36,880
this is creating a change of orders of

1108
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:38,960
magnitude

1109
00:51:43,270 --> 00:51:40,720
um beyond anything that we've ever

1110
00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:43,280
existed so this is not just incremental

1111
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:45,200
um that's why i call it the fourth stage

1112
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:46,720
of humanity and i'd love to chat about

1113
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:47,920
that with you

1114
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:51,040
but um well

1115
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:53,280
actually uh let me jump in here for a

1116
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:54,160
second

1117
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:56,960
um are because you just said it's not

1118
00:52:02,790 --> 00:51:58,720
incremental right this isn't some

1119
00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:02,800
gradual this is not right we are at

1120
00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:05,839
a virtual light switch right where i

1121
00:52:09,829 --> 00:52:06,240
mean

1122
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:09,839
click and and these changes

1123
00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:13,920
are are now and rapid

1124
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:16,240
they're they're lightning speed right

1125
00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:17,920
particularly if you take a few steps

1126
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:19,760
back and look at the perspective

1127
00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:22,079
of our society i mean even on a daily

1128
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:23,200
basis now

1129
00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:26,160
to many of us it seems very fast indeed

1130
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:27,119
and on a

1131
00:52:31,270 --> 00:52:29,280
grander scale it is like flipping a

1132
00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:31,280
switch i think you're quite right

1133
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:33,920
and so we're moving into i'm calling it

1134
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:35,520
the transhumanist

1135
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:37,680
stage but even that doesn't fully cover

1136
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:38,720
it

1137
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:42,640
surveillance

1138
00:52:45,990 --> 00:52:44,640
you know humanity is one big anthill

1139
00:52:49,349 --> 00:52:46,000
stage maybe that's how we can

1140
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:49,359
look at it it's a very very like strong

1141
00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:51,440
bureaucratic technocratic centralization

1142
00:52:54,549 --> 00:52:53,280
digitization commodification of every

1143
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:54,559
single thing on the planet

1144
00:52:58,390 --> 00:52:57,760
and on and on and on so it's it's weird

1145
00:53:00,549 --> 00:52:58,400
and it's

1146
00:53:01,829 --> 00:53:00,559
just we've never been like this but i

1147
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:01,839
believe

1148
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:05,359
it gives the collective power elite

1149
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:08,640
um the masters of our world tremendous

1150
00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:09,440
power

1151
00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:11,200
tremendous ability that could never have

1152
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:12,960
been dreamed of before and i personally

1153
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:14,640
believe this is why

1154
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:17,520
we're seeing an extensive amount of

1155
00:53:20,309 --> 00:53:19,359
interaction by other beings in our world

1156
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:20,319
now

1157
00:53:23,910 --> 00:53:22,240
this is the time that they would be

1158
00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:23,920
interested does that mean that they're

1159
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:24,960
afraid that we're going to be able to

1160
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:26,480
take them in a street fight no

1161
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:29,200
not necessarily but it does mean in my

1162
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,000
view

1163
00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:32,880
that we're getting to a point where we

1164
00:53:37,670 --> 00:53:34,400
actually might be a nuisance

1165
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:37,680
or or a disruption in the neighborhood

1166
00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:39,599
i think that is entirely possible we're

1167
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:42,000
looking at a near future of very strong

1168
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:45,760
ai we're looking at a near future of um

1169
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:47,920
beyond quantum computing possibly or

1170
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:49,599
even quantum computing

1171
00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:52,960
and genetic engineering and you know of

1172
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:55,599
array of all these other technologies so

1173
00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:56,160
when you

1174
00:54:01,670 --> 00:53:59,359
combine them all into this

1175
00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:01,680
stew we can't even predict everything

1176
00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:02,880
that's going to come out of it

1177
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:05,359
but something big is coming out of it

1178
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:06,079
and

1179
00:54:14,470 --> 00:54:08,559
when i was in pardon me when i was

1180
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:17,270
you know i mean part of me i see this

1181
00:54:22,870 --> 00:54:20,000
transformation of our civilization

1182
00:54:24,309 --> 00:54:22,880
perhaps has an inevitability but that

1183
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:24,319
doesn't mean that i think it's a good

1184
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:24,880
thing i

1185
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:28,160
i really mourn the loss of

1186
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:30,400
i guess what i would say like classical

1187
00:54:34,069 --> 00:54:31,359
humanity

1188
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:34,079
because i do think that we are moving

1189
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:34,480
we're

1190
00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:38,640
i ironically

1191
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:40,640
that movement away from our humanity

1192
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:42,400
might be the step

1193
00:54:49,270 --> 00:54:46,079
that that will happen

1194
00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:49,280
to get us to be more like them like

1195
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:49,760
we're

1196
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:52,079
turning ourselves more into aliens and

1197
00:54:55,829 --> 00:54:53,040
and i think that

1198
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:55,839
feeling pervaded the entire conclusion

1199
00:55:00,309 --> 00:54:57,280
of my book

1200
00:55:02,870 --> 00:55:00,319
that we you and i right everything

1201
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:02,880
around us right now that is living

1202
00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:06,000
could quite possibly be the last

1203
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:09,040
generation of 100

1204
00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:12,319
human right if you if you think about

1205
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:14,400
this and you present it pretty well in

1206
00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:15,520
the book

1207
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:19,680
but if you really think about it

1208
00:55:24,549 --> 00:55:22,640
years from now two generations a

1209
00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:24,559
generation and a half

1210
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:27,520
but those kids that are born born not

1211
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:28,640
alive right now

1212
00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:31,680
that are born in 30 years

1213
00:55:36,390 --> 00:55:34,079
they're they're that's transhumanism

1214
00:55:39,750 --> 00:55:36,400
they they are going to have stuff

1215
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:39,760
uh at birth injected right

1216
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:42,880
placed implanted at birth yes

1217
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:44,319
yeah i think i think you're that's

1218
00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:46,319
exactly right and um

1219
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:47,920
and it won't even i mean the

1220
00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:49,920
transhumanism is part

1221
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:52,640
of what we're all looking at you know

1222
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:53,680
there there are like these

1223
00:55:56,789 --> 00:55:55,680
crazy utopians out there who say oh it's

1224
00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:56,799
going to be wonderful we're going to be

1225
00:56:00,390 --> 00:55:57,119
like

1226
00:56:01,750 --> 00:56:00,400
years and it'll all be great

1227
00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:01,760
well i don't know about that first of

1228
00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:03,440
all maybe some people will be able to do

1229
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,920
that

1230
00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:05,440
i've often speculated we're going to

1231
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:07,200
have some kind of biologically based

1232
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:07,680
caste

1233
00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:09,680
system of the future where the people

1234
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:11,599
who can afford that can have that

1235
00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:13,440
and the rest of us please who knows what

1236
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:14,640
happens to us

1237
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:17,520
but um the real concern that i have

1238
00:56:21,030 --> 00:56:19,040
isn't even that because we're actually

1239
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:21,040
already developing that type of

1240
00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:22,720
i mean you've already got very very

1241
00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:24,400
elite wealthy people who already are

1242
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:26,000
healthier and they live longer lives and

1243
00:56:28,549 --> 00:56:26,400
they've

1244
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:28,559
already got everything compared with

1245
00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:30,319
poor people um

1246
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:33,920
what i'm concerned about is the dramatic

1247
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:35,760
technological transformation of our

1248
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:37,839
society is

1249
00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:40,160
within even the space of the last five

1250
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:42,000
let's even say 10 years

1251
00:56:48,549 --> 00:56:45,200
transformed our society into a an

1252
00:56:49,589 --> 00:56:48,559
overtly vast control system the likes of

1253
00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:49,599
which

1254
00:56:53,190 --> 00:56:52,000
like we could all see this coming 10

1255
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:53,200
years ago i could

1256
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,799
i talked about it i had lectures about

1257
00:56:57,430 --> 00:56:56,559
it i wrote about it it's not that i

1258
00:57:00,630 --> 00:56:57,440
couldn't see it

1259
00:57:02,150 --> 00:57:00,640
but i must say that i'm i am astonished

1260
00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:02,160
by the swiftness

1261
00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:04,400
that we've seen in the last few years

1262
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:07,119
looking at big tech social media control

1263
00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:10,640
propaganda overt propaganda and

1264
00:57:14,549 --> 00:57:12,400
d platforming which i think you were

1265
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:14,559
talking about in your opening segment

1266
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:17,200
uh this this in other words the movement

1267
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:18,799
to become just like china

1268
00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:20,079
honestly you know where they've got the

1269
00:57:26,309 --> 00:57:22,880
social credit system china has a genius

1270
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:26,319
totalitarian system that is

1271
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:27,839
vastly more brilliant than any that's

1272
00:57:31,430 --> 00:57:29,920
ever been attempted and with the

1273
00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:31,440
social credit system that they've got

1274
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:33,119
they've effectively

1275
00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:35,520
terrorized their entire population into

1276
00:57:39,589 --> 00:57:37,280
compliance

1277
00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:39,599
and i think that we're seeing that

1278
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:41,359
you've got all the western elites they

1279
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,440
love china they admire china and they

1280
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:45,839
they they have to modulate how they

1281
00:57:49,109 --> 00:57:47,520
express that admiration but it's very

1282
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:49,119
clear that they do

1283
00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:51,200
and you can just see where maybe a

1284
00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:52,960
decade behind the chinese at the most

1285
00:57:58,470 --> 00:57:56,559
nowadays yeah they're in 30 years

1286
00:58:00,630 --> 00:57:58,480
i mean there isn't another way to look

1287
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:00,640
at this and i don't care

1288
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:03,520
about i'm not concerned with i should

1289
00:58:06,870 --> 00:58:04,240
say

1290
00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:06,880
what part of society you're from right

1291
00:58:10,950 --> 00:58:07,520
if you're

1292
00:58:14,470 --> 00:58:10,960
in a garbage dump in in brazil

1293
00:58:17,270 --> 00:58:14,480
right begging or digging for food or

1294
00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:17,280
you run a hedge fund it doesn't matter

1295
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:18,880
30 years from now

1296
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:22,000
every human is going to

1297
00:58:28,789 --> 00:58:25,680
be monitored right it's just

1298
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:28,799
your location your your status your your

1299
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:29,760
health

1300
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:32,559
everything is going to be there uh

1301
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:34,480
locked onto the internet there isn't

1302
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:37,920
another way for the future to be

1303
00:58:41,750 --> 00:58:39,359
it's not going to be the opposite of

1304
00:58:43,670 --> 00:58:41,760
that for sure

1305
00:58:45,190 --> 00:58:43,680
no right and i mean we're already all

1306
00:58:46,470 --> 00:58:45,200
being monitored we all know that but

1307
00:58:48,470 --> 00:58:46,480
more elements of

1308
00:58:49,829 --> 00:58:48,480
our lives are going to be monitored so

1309
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:49,839
with digital currency for example we're

1310
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:50,960
getting away from my book but that's

1311
00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:51,760
okay

1312
00:58:56,150 --> 00:58:54,559
digital currencies on on the route which

1313
00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:56,160
will monitor every single transaction

1314
00:58:58,870 --> 00:58:57,599
that you make and it'll be instantly

1315
00:59:01,109 --> 00:58:58,880
available to

1316
00:59:02,470 --> 00:59:01,119
you know whatever authorities are deemed

1317
00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:02,480
they're able to look at it

1318
00:59:07,829 --> 00:59:05,920
and movement of course gps obviously and

1319
00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:07,839
uh facial wreck voice recognition all of

1320
00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:09,280
that that's all

1321
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:11,440
that's all on the table it's all

1322
00:59:15,270 --> 00:59:12,319
happening now

1323
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:15,280
but more and more pervasive but this is

1324
00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:16,079
your book

1325
00:59:20,069 --> 00:59:18,880
if you and you take a a really close

1326
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:20,079
analysis of this

1327
00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:23,280
one of the things that you clearly state

1328
00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:26,400
is that this is what we're going through

1329
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:29,599
e.t knows this yeah they've gone through

1330
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:30,720
it too

1331
00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:33,760
and and where we are at our stage

1332
00:59:37,829 --> 00:59:36,480
they are closely watching all of it and

1333
00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:37,839
they are waiting

1334
00:59:42,549 --> 00:59:40,960
for that switch to flip because

1335
00:59:44,470 --> 00:59:42,559
at that point we're we're going to be

1336
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:44,480
sort of at their level we're not there

1337
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:44,880
yet

1338
00:59:49,030 --> 00:59:47,359
right and also yes i agree with that and

1339
00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:49,040
also um

1340
00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:51,200
not just to see where we are at i think

1341
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:52,799
that might be the case with some of them

1342
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:54,160
and of course i'm just speculating here

1343
00:59:58,150 --> 00:59:55,200
but also

1344
01:00:00,309 --> 00:59:58,160
based on whatever evidence that we're

1345
01:00:03,270 --> 01:00:00,319
able to pull together on this

1346
01:00:04,069 --> 01:00:03,280
um i don't think it's impossible at all

1347
01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:04,079
that there would be

1348
01:00:07,589 --> 01:00:06,559
at least one group that would be wanting

1349
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:07,599
to

1350
01:00:11,349 --> 01:00:09,920
influence that transformation or at

1351
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:11,359
least

1352
01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:12,880
make sure that it goes the way they want

1353
01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:14,400
it to go so i think

1354
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:16,319
that you know if you're a

1355
01:00:21,190 --> 01:00:18,480
counterintelligence officer on behalf of

1356
01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:21,200
humanity and planet earth you would have

1357
01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:22,319
to

1358
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:25,839
likelihood

1359
01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:27,200
that at least one of those groups would

1360
01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:28,880
be infiltrating your society

1361
01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:31,760
to manage that process to their benefit

1362
01:00:34,230 --> 01:00:32,960
if there is an advantage

1363
01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:34,240
as that might sound to someone who

1364
01:00:36,470 --> 01:00:35,520
doesn't study this but i think that's

1365
01:00:38,309 --> 01:00:36,480
really possible

1366
01:00:39,589 --> 01:00:38,319
and i think the point that uh you're

1367
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:39,599
making here

1368
01:00:45,109 --> 01:00:42,720
is that an advanced civilization

1369
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:45,119
right that is looking at us and watching

1370
01:00:49,030 --> 01:00:45,760
us

1371
01:00:50,950 --> 01:00:49,040
shoot each other with bullets right

1372
01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:50,960
on our own planet right killing each

1373
01:00:56,549 --> 01:00:53,920
other that that is not what is going on

1374
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:56,559
on their planet right they're not

1375
01:01:00,950 --> 01:00:58,640
battling their neighbors

1376
01:01:01,829 --> 01:01:00,960
right they're not they've moved on from

1377
01:01:03,270 --> 01:01:01,839
that

1378
01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:03,280
they have achieved centralized

1379
01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:05,440
totalitarian control over their society

1380
01:01:08,630 --> 01:01:06,240
undoubtedly

1381
01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:08,640
and i'm i'm assuming they are waiting

1382
01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:09,520
for that to happen

1383
01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:12,640
on our world and and and how do we in

1384
01:01:15,990 --> 01:01:14,880
in 60 seconds and then we will pick this

1385
01:01:19,270 --> 01:01:16,000
up when we come back

1386
01:01:21,910 --> 01:01:19,280
um how do we achieve that do we go to

1387
01:01:22,870 --> 01:01:21,920
the ronald reagan speech at the united

1388
01:01:26,470 --> 01:01:22,880
nations

1389
01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:26,480
right and go okay well maybe it's gonna

1390
01:01:31,589 --> 01:01:28,799
take this but but how do we take that

1391
01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:33,190
uh well i don't know that i want us to

1392
01:01:35,349 --> 01:01:34,640
take that step so first of all let me

1393
01:01:38,630 --> 01:01:35,359
just get that

1394
01:01:40,309 --> 01:01:38,640
out of the way but i do think that we're

1395
01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:40,319
moving toward an inevitability of

1396
01:01:45,670 --> 01:01:43,040
globalized centralized control so

1397
01:01:47,349 --> 01:01:45,680
it's going to happen um you know if i

1398
01:01:47,670 --> 01:01:47,359
had the ability to control the future i

1399
01:01:49,030 --> 01:01:47,680
don't

1400
01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:49,040
know that i would want that to be the

1401
01:01:54,150 --> 01:01:51,200
case in fact i wouldn't

1402
01:01:55,510 --> 01:01:54,160
but i just think that they are looking

1403
01:01:58,390 --> 01:01:55,520
at us

1404
01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:58,400
i think that they all the evidence of

1405
01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:59,760
their society

1406
01:02:03,190 --> 01:02:01,119
seems to point to the fact that they

1407
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have totalitarian control over their

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own people like that's you really do get

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that with all the encounters

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um and i think that that's undoubtedly

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what they're expecting from us

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yeah but uh i'm not necessarily

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referring to

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the killing of your brothers how do we

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get to the point of just

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being earthlings instead of

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you know what i mean islam and religion

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01:02:32,470 --> 01:02:31,839
i mean it's they're really not all that

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01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:32,480
different

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you know you would require a strong

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centralized authority

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that has the ability to work out the

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issues and they would have to have

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a monopoly of violence of legal violence

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which is what all nations do

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you know when the united states formed

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of the disparate states

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the states had to give up some authority

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they weren't allowed to declare war on

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each other and things like that they

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couldn't have their own foreign policy

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01:02:57,510 --> 01:02:56,000
so you have to have centralized control

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01:02:58,630 --> 01:02:57,520
and the definition of a state one

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01:03:00,870 --> 01:02:58,640
definition is that

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01:03:02,390 --> 01:03:00,880
it is the repository of legal violence

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01:03:05,029 --> 01:03:02,400
right right like they're allowed

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01:03:06,150 --> 01:03:05,039
and so if you want to avoid war among

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people

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01:03:10,069 --> 01:03:09,039
among nations rather there's the only

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01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:10,079
way to do it would be to have a

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centralized global authority that has

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a monopoly of violence right

1443
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:19,760
can you have a centralized monopoly

1444
01:03:27,029 --> 01:03:26,150
that's a good question i don't believe

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01:03:29,270 --> 01:03:27,039
so no

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01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:29,280
right i don't believe so i think that

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01:03:33,589 --> 01:03:30,400
because you want

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unicorns and rainbows you need freedom

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like you need people have to have the

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ability

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to make their own decisions about their

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lives to at least some significant

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degree

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they have to have the ability to

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disagree with each other as well

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because any free society is going to

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have arguments like that's the whole

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01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:49,839
point like this is in our society today

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01:03:53,910 --> 01:03:51,359
we have democrats and republicans

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trying to kill each other but if you're

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going to have a free society

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01:04:00,230 --> 01:03:59,200
you therefore must realize that other

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people are not going to

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01:04:04,789 --> 01:04:03,440
agree with you or even like you

1465
01:04:06,230 --> 01:04:04,799
but that the agreement has to be that

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you're not going to kill each other

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right

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01:04:11,349 --> 01:04:09,920
like that's the thing so but any any

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free society is going to have to have

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different

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01:04:17,349 --> 01:04:16,079
let's take our breakfast

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in the world and have the same interests

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that's right and that's what makes us

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great right that we are different

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i mean i love fighting with uh richard

1476
01:04:25,990 --> 01:04:25,520
it's the best argument ever let's take

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our break

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right here this is fade to black i am

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your host jimmy church tonight

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richard dolan is here we are talking

1481
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about his new book

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the alien agendas a speculative analysis

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of those visiting earth more with

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richard after this short break stay with

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us

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welcome back fade to black i'm murals

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jimmy church tonight richard dolan

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01:10:00,630 --> 01:09:57,679
is here talking about his new book

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the alien agendas and that is plural by

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the way tomorrow night linda moulton how

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is here our annual linda molten how

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lmh holiday special event and tonight uh

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richard this is

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our holiday event part one okay yay

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yeah let's let's call it that i want to

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tell you i

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ask may i ask a favor of you you can do

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whatever you want it's your show

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i will i would just like to

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mention that um i mean addition to the

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book being out as a paperback end

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ebook obviously that's available on

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currently on amazon.com uh

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we're in the process of having an

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audiobook finished

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01:10:40,870 --> 01:10:39,360
and i'm not reading it i know some

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01:10:42,470 --> 01:10:40,880
people would like me to do that but

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they have to understand it's just too

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much work for me we have an

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outstanding reader of this book

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i've been listening to him tracy and i

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have been interacting with him all this

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time

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the guy's amazing book that audiobook

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should be ready

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in about i think about two weeks

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possibly so i'm very excited about that

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i just wanted to let people know

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and also we are looking at a couple or

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at least one

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other significant platform by which we

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will be selling our book if people don't

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want to go through amazon

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we get it and uh tracy and i are setting

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up

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a method for that so more on that to

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come when we have it but we are

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definitely

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moving to do that thank you for that

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yeah absolutely i was very excited to

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see

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last week uh it was number one

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it was number one on amazon for uh is it

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still there i i didn't check today i

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actually i don't know i i did see that i

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was like wow that's that's pretty neat

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i don't think that's happened to me

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before there's uh some pretty pretty

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good books

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uh number two three four five six right

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and they can blank my blank is what i'm

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01:11:49,669 --> 01:11:47,280
saying

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01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:49,679
now um can i talk to you about how you

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wrote it

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01:11:56,950 --> 01:11:53,520
actually yes um and there

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01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:56,960
is um i'm going to throw this idea

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out there and tell me if i'm right or

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wrong okay

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01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:04,320
but when you look at uh

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the flow when you start with chapter one

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right and you've got it all broken down

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you've got the it doesn't it's just not

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01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:12,480
the title of the chapter

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01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:14,480
you've got the elements of the chapter

1675
01:12:18,310 --> 01:12:16,480
there right okay so chapter one

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and then uh the same thing with chapter

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two and there's a flow

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01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:22,080
there's a flow that is going on you get

1679
01:12:27,910 --> 01:12:23,600
to chapter three

1680
01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:27,920
did you lay this out in advance

1681
01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:31,520
the subjects and then just let it rip

1682
01:12:35,110 --> 01:12:33,920
no no i i alway anytime i've got a

1683
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:35,120
significant

1684
01:12:40,470 --> 01:12:38,320
writing project it's always mapped out

1685
01:12:42,310 --> 01:12:40,480
i always map it out so i flow chart it

1686
01:12:45,990 --> 01:12:42,320
it's like a series of ideas

1687
01:12:47,430 --> 01:12:46,000
now that can can and does change

1688
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:47,440
during the process of writing like it

1689
01:12:52,550 --> 01:12:50,000
doesn't always end up exactly

1690
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:52,560
the way that i formulated it first but

1691
01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:54,000
no i i've got

1692
01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:55,600
i've got very specific ideas about how i

1693
01:13:00,070 --> 01:12:57,040
like to write anything

1694
01:13:02,470 --> 01:13:00,080
uh any kind of book and to me

1695
01:13:04,870 --> 01:13:02,480
it's a matter of knowing my word counts

1696
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:04,880
like knowing what the length is going to

1697
01:13:08,310 --> 01:13:06,640
be what i'm shooting for

1698
01:13:10,070 --> 01:13:08,320
which actually didn't happen in this

1699
01:13:12,070 --> 01:13:10,080
book it just kept getting longer

1700
01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:12,080
but but there's always a sense of

1701
01:13:16,709 --> 01:13:13,520
organization

1702
01:13:19,910 --> 01:13:16,719
and and what i want to work with

1703
01:13:21,030 --> 01:13:19,920
in this particular book um it was mostly

1704
01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:21,040
as i described

1705
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:22,480
but there was actually a little bit more

1706
01:13:25,350 --> 01:13:24,560
of an organic flow actually now that i

1707
01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:25,360
think of it

1708
01:13:30,310 --> 01:13:28,560
so i was adding things as i was thinking

1709
01:13:31,750 --> 01:13:30,320
of them in in certain cases yeah

1710
01:13:33,350 --> 01:13:31,760
but i would say overall it was it was

1711
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:33,360
organized before i started i

1712
01:13:37,510 --> 01:13:36,000
felt it i felt it in the way that it is

1713
01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:37,520
that it was written in the way that it

1714
01:13:42,229 --> 01:13:39,360
flowed i thought to myself

1715
01:13:44,709 --> 01:13:42,239
uh there there's an organic quality here

1716
01:13:47,750 --> 01:13:44,719
it just flows and it seems that

1717
01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:47,760
uh you laid out your map and then just

1718
01:13:51,750 --> 01:13:50,640
wrote because it flows everything flows

1719
01:13:54,550 --> 01:13:51,760
into

1720
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:54,560
uh the next subject uh very smoothly

1721
01:13:59,510 --> 01:13:56,480
almost like we're doing this show

1722
01:14:00,229 --> 01:13:59,520
right it's it's uh it's got that feel to

1723
01:14:03,350 --> 01:14:00,239
it

1724
01:14:06,070 --> 01:14:03,360
um well um i thank you for that but i

1725
01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:06,080
i must say that i did have a general

1726
01:14:09,510 --> 01:14:08,000
organization in my mind when i set out

1727
01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:09,520
to do this

1728
01:14:14,709 --> 01:14:12,640
um but there there was a lot of

1729
01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:14,719
there was a lot of organic elements of

1730
01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:17,520
writing this book that's definitely true

1731
01:14:21,590 --> 01:14:20,400
it flowed out actually this was a faster

1732
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:21,600
book for me to write than anything else

1733
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:23,280
i've ever done

1734
01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:25,760
so i think maybe you're you might be

1735
01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:27,280
feeling some of that as well

1736
01:14:31,990 --> 01:14:30,400
and there is a uh another zone here now

1737
01:14:34,149 --> 01:14:32,000
let's go ahead and let's get

1738
01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:34,159
let's get a little uncomfortable which

1739
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:35,040
is this

1740
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:37,440
um uh you know i've read all of your

1741
01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:38,400
stuff

1742
01:14:44,470 --> 01:14:42,560
uh and this book is

1743
01:14:46,070 --> 01:14:44,480
different and it's different for a lot

1744
01:14:48,550 --> 01:14:46,080
of different reasons it's different in

1745
01:14:51,910 --> 01:14:48,560
its writing style it's very personal

1746
01:14:54,310 --> 01:14:51,920
um but second it's it's the content

1747
01:14:56,070 --> 01:14:54,320
where you have discussed some of this

1748
01:14:59,510 --> 01:14:56,080
stuff in the past

1749
01:15:02,870 --> 01:14:59,520
lightly you've written about some of it

1750
01:15:05,990 --> 01:15:02,880
in the past the majority of this uh

1751
01:15:07,750 --> 01:15:06,000
for the richard dolan fans out there are

1752
01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:07,760
going to be a little bit surprised about

1753
01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:08,560
some of the

1754
01:15:12,390 --> 01:15:10,560
areas that you went into aren't they

1755
01:15:14,790 --> 01:15:12,400
absolutely and a lot of it i

1756
01:15:16,390 --> 01:15:14,800
i'm just going to tell you and and

1757
01:15:18,630 --> 01:15:16,400
listeners right now

1758
01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:18,640
um i'm taking a big chance on some of

1759
01:15:20,310 --> 01:15:20,000
the things that i've written about and i

1760
01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:20,320
can

1761
01:15:25,590 --> 01:15:23,600
very well be wrong about any number

1762
01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:25,600
or many number of things that are in

1763
01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:26,880
this book so

1764
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:28,400
this is why i call it a speculative

1765
01:15:31,990 --> 01:15:30,239
analysis um i'm not

1766
01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:32,000
pretending here that i've got definitive

1767
01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:34,080
answers what i've set out to do

1768
01:15:38,550 --> 01:15:37,360
however is you know my previous work has

1769
01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:38,560
always been very

1770
01:15:43,110 --> 01:15:40,719
uh historically factual i've tried to be

1771
01:15:46,709 --> 01:15:43,120
extremely accurate i've tried not to

1772
01:15:48,070 --> 01:15:46,719
uh speculate too much into areas where

1773
01:15:49,110 --> 01:15:48,080
there's just not enough facts to work

1774
01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:49,120
with

1775
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:50,560
and this is a different kind of a book

1776
01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:52,480
and i came to this

1777
01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:54,480
this actually came out of an online

1778
01:15:57,990 --> 01:15:55,520
lecture

1779
01:16:00,790 --> 01:15:58,000
that i gave last june which was called

1780
01:16:03,830 --> 01:16:00,800
an executive briefing the alien agendas

1781
01:16:05,669 --> 01:16:03,840
uh that was the germ of this book and

1782
01:16:08,709 --> 01:16:05,679
what i wanted to do then and now

1783
01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:08,719
is to i said to myself look i've

1784
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:11,520
i've studied this subject for several

1785
01:16:15,189 --> 01:16:13,360
decades now

1786
01:16:16,709 --> 01:16:15,199
i've looked at a lot of the facts i have

1787
01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:16,719
studied a great deal

1788
01:16:21,350 --> 01:16:19,440
of encounter cases even though i hadn't

1789
01:16:23,110 --> 01:16:21,360
always written about them i i've known

1790
01:16:26,870 --> 01:16:23,120
them very very well

1791
01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:26,880
and i thought it's really time

1792
01:16:32,070 --> 01:16:30,400
for me to try my hand at

1793
01:16:33,990 --> 01:16:32,080
looking at the biggest of the big

1794
01:16:36,630 --> 01:16:34,000
pictures that is what are these

1795
01:16:38,310 --> 01:16:36,640
beings and what the hell do they want

1796
01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:38,320
like why are they here

1797
01:16:41,590 --> 01:16:40,159
and so that's what i really tried to do

1798
01:16:43,510 --> 01:16:41,600
but i didn't

1799
01:16:44,870 --> 01:16:43,520
i didn't want to push the reader into

1800
01:16:48,310 --> 01:16:44,880
one conclusion or another

1801
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:48,320
what i really tried to do is to

1802
01:16:51,750 --> 01:16:50,320
look at the data that i i think is the

1803
01:16:54,790 --> 01:16:51,760
best data

1804
01:16:57,350 --> 01:16:54,800
and to organize

1805
01:16:58,310 --> 01:16:57,360
the book accordingly and and one of the

1806
01:16:59,990 --> 01:16:58,320
big surprises

1807
01:17:01,510 --> 01:17:00,000
you know that came to me when i was

1808
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:01,520
doing all of this

1809
01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:04,320
was finally ultimately recognizing

1810
01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:05,920
something that i had pushed away for so

1811
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:07,120
long which is

1812
01:17:13,510 --> 01:17:10,719
how many ufo occupant

1813
01:17:15,350 --> 01:17:13,520
uh cases how many of these occupants

1814
01:17:17,910 --> 01:17:15,360
look totally human

1815
01:17:19,510 --> 01:17:17,920
like that's just something that's it's

1816
01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:19,520
it's an uncomfortable thing it seems to

1817
01:17:24,790 --> 01:17:21,360
me that a lot of ufo

1818
01:17:26,310 --> 01:17:24,800
researchers they're aware of it but they

1819
01:17:28,630 --> 01:17:26,320
sometimes some of them will skirt it

1820
01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:28,640
others other people won't

1821
01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:31,120
but the fact is that there are a large

1822
01:17:34,950 --> 01:17:31,840
number

1823
01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:34,960
of cases historically and current in

1824
01:17:40,070 --> 01:17:36,800
which people will say

1825
01:17:41,590 --> 01:17:40,080
i was brought to a craft the people

1826
01:17:43,510 --> 01:17:41,600
running this were totally human looking

1827
01:17:46,070 --> 01:17:43,520
like you get that again and again

1828
01:17:46,950 --> 01:17:46,080
now it is also true that there are more

1829
01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:46,960
cases

1830
01:17:50,630 --> 01:17:48,719
of people encountering gray aliens

1831
01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:50,640
whether short or tall

1832
01:17:54,229 --> 01:17:53,040
but right behind them are humans and

1833
01:17:57,189 --> 01:17:54,239
then you get other

1834
01:17:58,630 --> 01:17:57,199
types you get you know some smaller

1835
01:18:01,669 --> 01:17:58,640
number of reptilian

1836
01:18:02,950 --> 01:18:01,679
claims and insect or mantid cases and

1837
01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:02,960
and then what i sometimes call the

1838
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:04,480
kitchen sink which is a small number of

1839
01:18:07,030 --> 01:18:05,040
just

1840
01:18:08,229 --> 01:18:07,040
this totally bizarre variety of a lot of

1841
01:18:11,270 --> 01:18:08,239
things but

1842
01:18:13,990 --> 01:18:11,280
but the human occupants is

1843
01:18:16,390 --> 01:18:14,000
you know just i was looking at this and

1844
01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:16,400
at some point i just thought

1845
01:18:19,669 --> 01:18:18,800
it it would be dishonest intellectually

1846
01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:19,679
of me

1847
01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:22,080
to avoid this because something is going

1848
01:18:26,470 --> 01:18:24,159
on now we can say well

1849
01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:26,480
maybe it's black budget classified tech

1850
01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:28,480
the germans after the war you know

1851
01:18:31,510 --> 01:18:29,920
whatever

1852
01:18:34,229 --> 01:18:31,520
but i actually don't think that that's

1853
01:18:36,390 --> 01:18:34,239
the best solution to this

1854
01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:36,400
um i i've thought that there are other

1855
01:18:41,189 --> 01:18:38,320
solutions and i tried to lay that out

1856
01:18:42,470 --> 01:18:41,199
and in fact the biggest risk probably

1857
01:18:44,390 --> 01:18:42,480
that i took in this whole book is in

1858
01:18:46,229 --> 01:18:44,400
chapter one that's right

1859
01:18:47,990 --> 01:18:46,239
that's where i'm going and see this is

1860
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:48,000
yeah i call it a fresh look at our

1861
01:18:51,669 --> 01:18:49,120
origins

1862
01:18:52,870 --> 01:18:51,679
and i openly speculate over the

1863
01:18:55,270 --> 01:18:52,880
possibility

1864
01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:55,280
that the human race was genetically

1865
01:18:59,669 --> 01:18:56,480
enhanced

1866
01:19:02,149 --> 01:18:59,679
let's say roughly 40 000 years ago

1867
01:19:04,149 --> 01:19:02,159
and i came across this theory and i

1868
01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:04,159
wrote about this in the book

1869
01:19:07,270 --> 01:19:06,480
from a deceased friend of mine a woman

1870
01:19:09,110 --> 01:19:07,280
that i

1871
01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:09,120
really admired she was a good friend her

1872
01:19:13,030 --> 01:19:11,520
name was dr colleen clements and she

1873
01:19:14,070 --> 01:19:13,040
taught at the rochester institute of

1874
01:19:16,550 --> 01:19:14,080
technology

1875
01:19:18,310 --> 01:19:16,560
and the university of rochester her

1876
01:19:20,229 --> 01:19:18,320
interest in ufos really caused her

1877
01:19:21,350 --> 01:19:20,239
career to suffer but she was a brilliant

1878
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:21,360
lady

1879
01:19:25,030 --> 01:19:23,280
uh she was one of we there was three of

1880
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:25,040
us in rochester

1881
01:19:28,709 --> 01:19:26,880
uh another friend is dr bernie angelo

1882
01:19:30,550 --> 01:19:28,719
he's still around he's a great guy

1883
01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:30,560
but the three of us were our own little

1884
01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:32,880
clutch in my early years in the ufo

1885
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:33,600
field

1886
01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:36,800
back in 2001 2002 we were all buddies we

1887
01:19:40,390 --> 01:19:38,640
hung out we talked and colleen was a

1888
01:19:41,750 --> 01:19:40,400
really brave person

1889
01:19:44,070 --> 01:19:41,760
but she wrote a couple of books and this

1890
01:19:46,390 --> 01:19:44,080
was a theory that she was exploring

1891
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:46,400
and based on you know not just something

1892
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:47,440
that came out of her head she was

1893
01:19:52,630 --> 01:19:49,120
looking at science

1894
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:52,640
and i just picked up on it and what i

1895
01:19:58,870 --> 01:19:55,760
what i've learned is that we have

1896
01:20:00,470 --> 01:19:58,880
a we have a particular gene called the

1897
01:20:03,189 --> 01:20:00,480
microcephaly gene

1898
01:20:03,990 --> 01:20:03,199
and a particular thing in it known as an

1899
01:20:05,350 --> 01:20:04,000
allele all

1900
01:20:07,510 --> 01:20:05,360
genes have alleles and i'm not a

1901
01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:07,520
geneticist but this is what you learn

1902
01:20:10,870 --> 01:20:10,080
and one of those alleles geneticists

1903
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:10,880
will tell you

1904
01:20:15,830 --> 01:20:14,159
will tell everyone is only something

1905
01:20:19,189 --> 01:20:15,840
that we've had quite recently

1906
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:19,199
they call it the d allele and

1907
01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:22,000
and this is a very important uh element

1908
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:22,400
for

1909
01:20:26,229 --> 01:20:24,000
human brain growth and development this

1910
01:20:28,870 --> 01:20:26,239
is what the geneticists all agree on

1911
01:20:30,229 --> 01:20:28,880
and they all agree that we got it they

1912
01:20:32,070 --> 01:20:30,239
estimate because they actually don't

1913
01:20:34,070 --> 01:20:32,080
know and and the low estimate actually

1914
01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:34,080
is as low as something like 20 000 years

1915
01:20:37,270 --> 01:20:36,719
high estimate something like 60 000

1916
01:20:38,550 --> 01:20:37,280
years

1917
01:20:40,390 --> 01:20:38,560
so they split the difference they come

1918
01:20:42,870 --> 01:20:40,400
to roughly 40.

1919
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:42,880
it could be more it could be less but

1920
01:20:47,510 --> 01:20:44,000
what i

1921
01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:47,520
uh learned from them is that they

1922
01:20:51,430 --> 01:20:49,760
all are adamant that this allele did not

1923
01:20:52,310 --> 01:20:51,440
come from ourselves it came through

1924
01:20:54,390 --> 01:20:52,320
interbreeding

1925
01:20:55,669 --> 01:20:54,400
with another species why do they believe

1926
01:20:57,590 --> 01:20:55,679
this i don't know why

1927
01:20:59,110 --> 01:20:57,600
but that is their consensus and there

1928
01:21:01,430 --> 01:20:59,120
doesn't seem to be any argument

1929
01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:01,440
argument about this and so the obvious

1930
01:21:03,830 --> 01:21:03,040
candidate would be neanderthal since

1931
01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:03,840
humans

1932
01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:06,000
did we know that we interbred with the

1933
01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:07,280
neanderthals

1934
01:21:10,629 --> 01:21:09,520
in that era and there was actually

1935
01:21:12,790 --> 01:21:10,639
another human

1936
01:21:14,070 --> 01:21:12,800
group at the time called the denisovans

1937
01:21:16,629 --> 01:21:14,080
which were very very

1938
01:21:17,189 --> 01:21:16,639
very similar to neanderthals but the

1939
01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:17,199
thing is

1940
01:21:23,030 --> 01:21:20,960
that we have enough of the neanderthal

1941
01:21:24,470 --> 01:21:23,040
dna analyzed at this point

1942
01:21:26,629 --> 01:21:24,480
and the fact is that they don't have

1943
01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:26,639
that genetic material it's just not

1944
01:21:29,669 --> 01:21:27,280
there

1945
01:21:31,189 --> 01:21:29,679
nor are the denisovans apparently and so

1946
01:21:33,590 --> 01:21:31,199
the question is if it didn't

1947
01:21:35,189 --> 01:21:33,600
come now maybe there's this hail mary

1948
01:21:35,830 --> 01:21:35,199
pass long shot at the last minute

1949
01:21:38,070 --> 01:21:35,840
someone

1950
01:21:39,910 --> 01:21:38,080
10 years from now may find it but the

1951
01:21:42,229 --> 01:21:39,920
fact is they've been looking for it

1952
01:21:43,270 --> 01:21:42,239
very diligently and it just doesn't seem

1953
01:21:44,790 --> 01:21:43,280
to be there

1954
01:21:46,709 --> 01:21:44,800
and we've had some very good neanderthal

1955
01:21:50,470 --> 01:21:46,719
dna specimens by the way

1956
01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:50,480
so if it isn't those groups

1957
01:21:54,550 --> 01:21:52,159
then the obvious question is who's the

1958
01:21:57,270 --> 01:21:54,560
daddy like where did it come from

1959
01:21:57,990 --> 01:21:57,280
now in colleen's original in formulation

1960
01:21:59,350 --> 01:21:58,000
of it

1961
01:22:01,270 --> 01:21:59,360
she looked at all of that she wrote her

1962
01:22:03,510 --> 01:22:01,280
book 12 years ago

1963
01:22:05,189 --> 01:22:03,520
and we and we didn't have as much

1964
01:22:06,229 --> 01:22:05,199
information about neanderthal dna at the

1965
01:22:08,070 --> 01:22:06,239
time and she

1966
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:08,080
openly said look maybe they'll find it

1967
01:22:12,149 --> 01:22:10,400
and my whole theory will be shot

1968
01:22:14,229 --> 01:22:12,159
when i started researching this i looked

1969
01:22:17,270 --> 01:22:14,239
to see i would assume i had assumed

1970
01:22:18,070 --> 01:22:17,280
actually that they had found the that

1971
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:18,080
genetic

1972
01:22:21,189 --> 01:22:20,400
material in their dna and and to my

1973
01:22:23,270 --> 01:22:21,199
shock

1974
01:22:24,550 --> 01:22:23,280
they hadn't nope and i thought wow

1975
01:22:26,950 --> 01:22:24,560
that's quite interesting

1976
01:22:28,550 --> 01:22:26,960
so her's theory and what i actually

1977
01:22:29,430 --> 01:22:28,560
think is an interesting theory

1978
01:22:31,830 --> 01:22:29,440
is that it did come from

1979
01:22:34,470 --> 01:22:31,840
extraterrestrials well see this

1980
01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:34,480
is this is what's so interesting for me

1981
01:22:39,430 --> 01:22:36,400
for you to start the book

1982
01:22:42,470 --> 01:22:39,440
uh with this subject because this is a

1983
01:22:45,830 --> 01:22:42,480
science subject for you right this

1984
01:22:47,990 --> 01:22:45,840
isn't yet right this is just

1985
01:22:49,830 --> 01:22:48,000
how did we get here what were our

1986
01:22:50,470 --> 01:22:49,840
origins and i think that there was

1987
01:22:53,750 --> 01:22:50,480
enough

1988
01:22:57,189 --> 01:22:53,760
there today for us to take a close look

1989
01:22:58,149 --> 01:22:57,199
i mean not only uh uh you know genetic

1990
01:23:01,270 --> 01:22:58,159
pairs and

1991
01:23:02,629 --> 01:23:01,280
and why are we 46 and and primates are

1992
01:23:05,590 --> 01:23:02,639
48 or whatever

1993
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:05,600
there there's that aspect of it uh but

1994
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:06,000
the

1995
01:23:15,030 --> 01:23:12,800
homo sapiens sapien just appeared

1996
01:23:16,709 --> 01:23:15,040
and the things just appeared right

1997
01:23:17,270 --> 01:23:16,719
there's nothing in the fossil record

1998
01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:17,280
before

1999
01:23:21,990 --> 01:23:20,320
us uh uh for a discussion

2000
01:23:24,629 --> 01:23:22,000
there's that part of it but the other

2001
01:23:29,030 --> 01:23:24,639
thing is is the changes that happened

2002
01:23:32,149 --> 01:23:29,040
to only us and and that dll

2003
01:23:35,110 --> 01:23:32,159
and and and other things that enabled us

2004
01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:35,120
richard you pointed out in the book uh

2005
01:23:38,790 --> 01:23:36,080
that made us

2006
01:23:40,390 --> 01:23:38,800
wonder about the stars right to think

2007
01:23:43,990 --> 01:23:40,400
about the self well and also

2008
01:23:46,149 --> 01:23:44,000
right absolutely um as far as our fossil

2009
01:23:48,550 --> 01:23:46,159
record now goes human beings as homo

2010
01:23:50,229 --> 01:23:48,560
sapiens have now existed for more than

2011
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:50,239
300 thousand years

2012
01:23:53,270 --> 01:23:52,320
which just blows my mind you know when i

2013
01:23:55,669 --> 01:23:53,280
was a kid

2014
01:23:57,110 --> 01:23:55,679
it was chrome magnum man live 35 000

2015
01:23:58,709 --> 01:23:57,120
years ago maybe 40.

2016
01:24:00,470 --> 01:23:58,719
and they just kept pushing that number

2017
01:24:02,229 --> 01:24:00,480
out um but for

2018
01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:02,239
all of that time we were a certain way

2019
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:05,120
and and a roughly 42

2020
01:24:08,470 --> 01:24:07,920
000 years ago you see really hard

2021
01:24:10,390 --> 01:24:08,480
evidence

2022
01:24:12,070 --> 01:24:10,400
of a creative explosion in the human

2023
01:24:13,430 --> 01:24:12,080
mind that's right and there's really no

2024
01:24:16,229 --> 01:24:13,440
way to avoid this

2025
01:24:18,310 --> 01:24:16,239
uh you look at there's cave art which

2026
01:24:21,430 --> 01:24:18,320
art human artwork prior to that

2027
01:24:24,070 --> 01:24:21,440
is i mean it's it's nice but it's

2028
01:24:25,189 --> 01:24:24,080
it's not anywhere near at the level of

2029
01:24:26,709 --> 01:24:25,199
what you see

2030
01:24:29,350 --> 01:24:26,719
suddenly exploding about forty two

2031
01:24:31,750 --> 01:24:29,360
thousand years ago uh in ditto with

2032
01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:31,760
tool-making and so it's very obvious

2033
01:24:36,470 --> 01:24:34,480
that around that time

2034
01:24:38,709 --> 01:24:36,480
something really did happen to us

2035
01:24:42,149 --> 01:24:38,719
intellectually mentally

2036
01:24:44,950 --> 01:24:42,159
it's a qualitative shift and so

2037
01:24:45,669 --> 01:24:44,960
i don't know that that theory is correct

2038
01:24:49,110 --> 01:24:45,679
that it's

2039
01:24:50,950 --> 01:24:49,120
it's the uh introduction of that dll

2040
01:24:53,189 --> 01:24:50,960
in the microcephaly gene i don't know

2041
01:24:54,470 --> 01:24:53,199
but i think it's at least a reasonable

2042
01:24:57,510 --> 01:24:54,480
speculation

2043
01:24:59,350 --> 01:24:57,520
and uh you know colleen had introduced

2044
01:25:00,950 --> 01:24:59,360
also her she was very good at her study

2045
01:25:03,510 --> 01:25:00,960
of mythology um

2046
01:25:05,189 --> 01:25:03,520
human mythological stories and so forth

2047
01:25:05,830 --> 01:25:05,199
sky god myths and things like this and

2048
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:05,840
she

2049
01:25:10,229 --> 01:25:08,800
used that to support the argument that

2050
01:25:11,110 --> 01:25:10,239
this actually did come from that time

2051
01:25:12,229 --> 01:25:11,120
period and

2052
01:25:13,510 --> 01:25:12,239
people can read the book i don't know

2053
01:25:16,149 --> 01:25:13,520
how much of that we want to get into

2054
01:25:17,830 --> 01:25:16,159
here but it is a very interesting

2055
01:25:19,669 --> 01:25:17,840
case and i think when you look at the

2056
01:25:21,189 --> 01:25:19,679
sum total of it you

2057
01:25:22,709 --> 01:25:21,199
might well come away with the idea that

2058
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:22,719
we were enhanced

2059
01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:25,120
maybe by some group that said those

2060
01:25:28,149 --> 01:25:26,320
humans

2061
01:25:29,430 --> 01:25:28,159
close but not quite let's see if we can

2062
01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:29,440
tweak them a little bit

2063
01:25:32,709 --> 01:25:30,719
we'll tweak this group here and then

2064
01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:32,719
we'll let that that enhancement spread

2065
01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:33,120
through

2066
01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:35,040
you know positive selection which is

2067
01:25:38,310 --> 01:25:37,120
what all geneticists say did happen with

2068
01:25:41,590 --> 01:25:38,320
this dll

2069
01:25:45,430 --> 01:25:41,600
now as so that lays out now

2070
01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:45,440
uh the book there isn't

2071
01:25:49,510 --> 01:25:47,520
this isn't a book with sightings in it

2072
01:25:52,390 --> 01:25:49,520
this isn't a book about

2073
01:25:53,270 --> 01:25:52,400
ufo cases and crash retrievals i want to

2074
01:25:56,310 --> 01:25:53,280
correct you there

2075
01:25:56,870 --> 01:25:56,320
there are i do have a number of those in

2076
01:26:04,310 --> 01:25:56,880
in the

2077
01:26:06,709 --> 01:26:04,320
hold on now this is a book about us

2078
01:26:08,709 --> 01:26:06,719
that's what the book is about this is

2079
01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:08,719
this is a book about

2080
01:26:15,350 --> 01:26:12,719
um humans and and the

2081
01:26:16,149 --> 01:26:15,360
the alien and advanced uh civilizations

2082
01:26:19,270 --> 01:26:16,159
out there

2083
01:26:22,709 --> 01:26:19,280
that are here interacting with us

2084
01:26:25,030 --> 01:26:22,719
as humans and and that is a crazy

2085
01:26:27,510 --> 01:26:25,040
departure for richard dolan

2086
01:26:29,510 --> 01:26:27,520
yes it is absolutely as for example i

2087
01:26:32,470 --> 01:26:29,520
have a theory about the human looking

2088
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:32,480
beings that we encounter um and it's

2089
01:26:37,350 --> 01:26:33,920
only a theory

2090
01:26:39,990 --> 01:26:37,360
but i actually i openly wonder if

2091
01:26:41,430 --> 01:26:40,000
it at some ancient time in our history

2092
01:26:43,510 --> 01:26:41,440
it could have been 40 000 years ago it

2093
01:26:45,590 --> 01:26:43,520
could have been more recent than that

2094
01:26:47,110 --> 01:26:45,600
but that some group of humans were let's

2095
01:26:50,070 --> 01:26:47,120
just say adopted

2096
01:26:52,390 --> 01:26:50,080
by another group taken and raised and

2097
01:26:55,510 --> 01:26:52,400
brought into a totally different culture

2098
01:26:57,110 --> 01:26:55,520
and um as a result would have

2099
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:57,120
basically nothing in common with us

2100
01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:58,560
culturally you know they would be a

2101
01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:00,320
completely different kind of a group

2102
01:27:04,310 --> 01:27:02,880
um i think of that because there are

2103
01:27:06,390 --> 01:27:04,320
actually a number of cases

2104
01:27:08,390 --> 01:27:06,400
i got think of the famous travis walton

2105
01:27:10,149 --> 01:27:08,400
case it's actually a really interesting

2106
01:27:13,189 --> 01:27:10,159
one you know here's travis

2107
01:27:16,310 --> 01:27:13,199
uh aboard a craft in 1975 he sees

2108
01:27:18,229 --> 01:27:16,320
very non-human looking aliens initially

2109
01:27:19,750 --> 01:27:18,239
when he gets up from that table

2110
01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:19,760
he goes into another part of the ship

2111
01:27:24,870 --> 01:27:22,000
and he's encounters these

2112
01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:24,880
absolutely human looking beings who

2113
01:27:29,030 --> 01:27:25,920
don't even really

2114
01:27:30,390 --> 01:27:29,040
speak to him and don't interact with him

2115
01:27:31,990 --> 01:27:30,400
the way that we will

2116
01:27:34,470 --> 01:27:32,000
connect with each other their behavior

2117
01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:34,480
is very different but there's humans and

2118
01:27:36,870 --> 01:27:36,239
non-human aliens like aboard this one

2119
01:27:39,350 --> 01:27:36,880
craft

2120
01:27:40,629 --> 01:27:39,360
and and you know has anyone really even

2121
01:27:42,950 --> 01:27:40,639
bothered to ask

2122
01:27:43,910 --> 01:27:42,960
why would that be like i haven't really

2123
01:27:47,510 --> 01:27:43,920
listened to anyone's

2124
01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:47,520
try to explain that so my my

2125
01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:49,440
hunch and that's all that this is at

2126
01:27:55,669 --> 01:27:51,280
this point is that

2127
01:27:57,270 --> 01:27:55,679
these these are not black budget humans

2128
01:27:58,950 --> 01:27:57,280
working through the system these are

2129
01:28:02,149 --> 01:27:58,960
humans that

2130
01:28:03,830 --> 01:28:02,159
probably are us because i i'd still have

2131
01:28:06,390 --> 01:28:03,840
a difficult time believing

2132
01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:06,400
in absolutely human-looking beings

2133
01:28:09,030 --> 01:28:07,360
evolving

2134
01:28:11,350 --> 01:28:09,040
perfectly like us in another world i

2135
01:28:13,510 --> 01:28:11,360
just i i think i could believe that

2136
01:28:15,669 --> 01:28:13,520
there would be humanoid beings that look

2137
01:28:17,750 --> 01:28:15,679
maybe a little bit like us but exactly

2138
01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:17,760
like us it's difficult for me to wrap my

2139
01:28:21,350 --> 01:28:19,920
brain around maybe that's the case

2140
01:28:23,350 --> 01:28:21,360
but i do wonder if there are humans that

2141
01:28:25,590 --> 01:28:23,360
have been taken and that were brought

2142
01:28:28,229 --> 01:28:25,600
into another alien culture

2143
01:28:29,430 --> 01:28:28,239
and that just now they they do the work

2144
01:28:31,030 --> 01:28:29,440
maybe they're in upper management at

2145
01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:31,040
this point for all i know yeah

2146
01:28:35,669 --> 01:28:33,920
certainly and i i kind of take a

2147
01:28:38,070 --> 01:28:35,679
different approach

2148
01:28:39,030 --> 01:28:38,080
um so i'll throw this out there for you

2149
01:28:42,229 --> 01:28:39,040
is that

2150
01:28:44,950 --> 01:28:42,239
the uh the particles of the universe

2151
01:28:46,229 --> 01:28:44,960
are the same everywhere in the universe

2152
01:28:48,470 --> 01:28:46,239
gases are the same

2153
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:48,480
carbon's the same everything's uh

2154
01:28:53,270 --> 01:28:49,920
hydrogen helium

2155
01:28:53,990 --> 01:28:53,280
all of that is the same and so are amino

2156
01:28:56,550 --> 01:28:54,000
acids

2157
01:28:57,270 --> 01:28:56,560
and they only have so many ways of

2158
01:29:00,550 --> 01:28:57,280
combining

2159
01:29:03,830 --> 01:29:00,560
atoms molecules and we know that

2160
01:29:07,189 --> 01:29:03,840
meteorites have been found on earth with

2161
01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:07,199
frigging sugars on it for rna

2162
01:29:13,830 --> 01:29:10,320
absolutely now if we go that far

2163
01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:13,840
then we i the only way to deduce

2164
01:29:21,510 --> 01:29:17,679
any of this is that life must be

2165
01:29:24,229 --> 01:29:21,520
if not the same pretty damn close

2166
01:29:26,229 --> 01:29:24,239
i agree with you and actually i have a

2167
01:29:27,110 --> 01:29:26,239
significant discussion on that in this

2168
01:29:29,590 --> 01:29:27,120
book so

2169
01:29:31,270 --> 01:29:29,600
i don't disagree with that at all um and

2170
01:29:31,590 --> 01:29:31,280
it and for that reason i think it might

2171
01:29:34,470 --> 01:29:31,600
be

2172
01:29:35,910 --> 01:29:34,480
possible that we would see like having

2173
01:29:38,790 --> 01:29:35,920
two arms two legs

2174
01:29:40,790 --> 01:29:38,800
two forward-looking eyes nose ears mouth

2175
01:29:44,070 --> 01:29:40,800
like all of those

2176
01:29:46,550 --> 01:29:44,080
are very logical and for a successful

2177
01:29:48,070 --> 01:29:46,560
organism to have having two eyes five

2178
01:29:49,110 --> 01:29:48,080
six feet above the ground is that's a

2179
01:29:50,390 --> 01:29:49,120
great idea

2180
01:29:52,229 --> 01:29:50,400
and you wouldn't wanna you wouldn't be

2181
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:52,239
able to have four arms

2182
01:29:56,629 --> 01:29:54,880
or six legs like that's not efficient

2183
01:29:57,189 --> 01:29:56,639
because every new thing that the body

2184
01:29:59,990 --> 01:29:57,199
gets

2185
01:30:02,229 --> 01:30:00,000
comes at a cost of energy so actually

2186
01:30:03,669 --> 01:30:02,239
the way that we are designed as bipedal

2187
01:30:06,070 --> 01:30:03,679
organisms

2188
01:30:07,189 --> 01:30:06,080
is it is a great design and it wouldn't

2189
01:30:09,430 --> 01:30:07,199
be surprising

2190
01:30:10,390 --> 01:30:09,440
that other technologically proficient

2191
01:30:12,550 --> 01:30:10,400
species

2192
01:30:13,510 --> 01:30:12,560
develop in a similar way yeah and the

2193
01:30:17,669 --> 01:30:13,520
only difference

2194
01:30:19,669 --> 01:30:17,679
i i'm i would think is gravity

2195
01:30:22,149 --> 01:30:19,679
right so you've got extreme gravity on

2196
01:30:24,629 --> 01:30:22,159
another planet well you're short and fat

2197
01:30:26,149 --> 01:30:24,639
right less gravity uh everybody is the

2198
01:30:28,709 --> 01:30:26,159
los angeles lakers

2199
01:30:29,510 --> 01:30:28,719
right and right and eight foot tall and

2200
01:30:31,270 --> 01:30:29,520
then but

2201
01:30:32,870 --> 01:30:31,280
but the basics are the basics ten

2202
01:30:33,910 --> 01:30:32,880
fingers ten toes right by

2203
01:30:36,149 --> 01:30:33,920
and there might be other differences

2204
01:30:37,510 --> 01:30:36,159
like the power of the sun so maybe if

2205
01:30:38,310 --> 01:30:37,520
you got a really strong sun you might

2206
01:30:40,870 --> 01:30:38,320
have

2207
01:30:42,470 --> 01:30:40,880
dark shades over your eyes like the

2208
01:30:44,390 --> 01:30:42,480
grays

2209
01:30:46,390 --> 01:30:44,400
exactly things like that like that's

2210
01:30:49,830 --> 01:30:46,400
entirely likely it seems but the

2211
01:30:52,390 --> 01:30:49,840
odds of this is the thing and i i will

2212
01:30:53,830 --> 01:30:52,400
talk richard dawkins into the ground on

2213
01:30:57,350 --> 01:30:53,840
this subject

2214
01:31:00,070 --> 01:30:57,360
is that the odds of dna

2215
01:31:00,790 --> 01:31:00,080
just happening because of a lightning

2216
01:31:05,510 --> 01:31:00,800
strike

2217
01:31:08,070 --> 01:31:05,520
right on moss in a riverbed on a crystal

2218
01:31:08,790 --> 01:31:08,080
and then dna right just appears and here

2219
01:31:11,990 --> 01:31:08,800
we are

2220
01:31:14,149 --> 01:31:12,000
i'm not buying into that hey it's it's

2221
01:31:15,990 --> 01:31:14,159
it's it's too crazy the odds are more of

2222
01:31:17,990 --> 01:31:16,000
a stream you're more of a pan-spermia

2223
01:31:20,470 --> 01:31:18,000
theorist i said i'm okay with that

2224
01:31:21,189 --> 01:31:20,480
it's yeah i think you you're probably

2225
01:31:24,070 --> 01:31:21,199
right

2226
01:31:25,910 --> 01:31:24,080
and so why wouldn't okay so we have the

2227
01:31:28,070 --> 01:31:25,920
the panspermia element

2228
01:31:29,910 --> 01:31:28,080
but you're right you know the drive-by

2229
01:31:31,990 --> 01:31:29,920
okay let's check in let's see if they

2230
01:31:33,030 --> 01:31:32,000
got the wheel yet oh they're not even

2231
01:31:35,430 --> 01:31:33,040
dreaming

2232
01:31:36,629 --> 01:31:35,440
they're not even contemplating death

2233
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right so

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01:31:40,870 --> 01:31:39,600
we've got to fix that we got to get the

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neurons clicking

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01:31:44,950 --> 01:31:44,080
in in their brain so their world opens

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01:31:47,030 --> 01:31:44,960
up

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now here's one thing that actually i i

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didn't think about until i was writing

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this book and what you just said

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prompted me to remember this so

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01:31:56,390 --> 01:31:55,280
you know here where we're talking about

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ancient aliens

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01:32:00,470 --> 01:31:59,120
uh basically and an extremely long

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observation

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by them of us and when you really think

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about that in terms of human society

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01:32:12,229 --> 01:32:08,719
it is impossible for us to imagine

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our species doing any kind of ultra

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long-term monitoring of anything that

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goes on that long

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thousands of years are you kidding we

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can't even plan four years ahead

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01:32:21,910 --> 01:32:19,920
right two years ahead like it's

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impossible for us and so what

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01:32:28,950 --> 01:32:26,239
i i'm asking myself like if there is

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a long term like multiple thousands of

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years

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01:32:36,229 --> 01:32:32,960
observation plan what would that require

2260
01:32:38,310 --> 01:32:36,239
of them and my best answer is that

2261
01:32:41,270 --> 01:32:38,320
it would require them not to be fully

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biologically based civilization

2263
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in other words uh they they could be

2264
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biologically based individuals yes but

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the

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probably isn't biological it

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would be artificial maybe maybe a series

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of algorithms

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some artificial intelligence something

2270
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that goes beyond

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the lifetime of individual organisms

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that have their own egos their own

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passions their own desires

2274
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their own foibles so i think and that is

2275
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why i believe that these are

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totalitarian types of societies like i

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think

2278
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they're very to have that level of

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planning and implementation over a long

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period of time

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even in the last hundred years if you've

2282
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got like the grays or

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other beings that have been here a long

2284
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period of time for an extended

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program that would require a very tight

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level of centralized control

2287
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and maybe just maybe not biologically

2288
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based well

2289
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why not because that's what we do

2290
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richard we're sending probes to mars

2291
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right to saturn to jupiter to mars

2292
01:33:48,470 --> 01:33:46,480
right right that there isn't a

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biological element to that

2294
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there isn't number one it's the easiest

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way to get it done

2296
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and and make those observation of these

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01:33:57,910 --> 01:33:57,360
alien worlds in our solar system number

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one

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and number two that to that centralized

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organization

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is right there it's called nasa right

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the probes are answering

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to a centralized system they would have

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to be

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doing right approaching everything the

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same way why not

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it's the only way you could do it if

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you're going to have a long long term

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plan because otherwise if you've got

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you know think of the history of human

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01:34:28,550 --> 01:34:26,239
dissension amongst the troops

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01:34:30,070 --> 01:34:28,560
yes yeah like one king dies his son

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comes in and does something totally

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01:34:34,709 --> 01:34:31,679
different and screws things up and

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01:34:36,149 --> 01:34:34,719
like nothing lasts i mean once in a

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01:34:38,310 --> 01:34:36,159
while you can get like the roman empire

2317
01:34:41,830 --> 01:34:38,320
but that's that's an anomaly most

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most and even that was very volatile

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and that only lasted 600 years if you

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think about it we need to take our break

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right here richard

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let's get that in this is fade to black

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our guest tonight

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richard bleepin dolan we're talking

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about his new book

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the alien agendas i'm your host jimmy

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church with richard after this short

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break stay with us

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jimmy church

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welcome back faded black i'm your host

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jimmy church uh

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this is the point of the show where i

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tell you about

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i do everything securely richard is

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looking at me

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uh right now in the studio he can see

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all the computers and

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and the wonder and the magic that goes

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down in here i run a lot of computers

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for this show

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on i don't like being

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monitored i do everything anonymously

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which is why i use virtual shield

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everything here is protected

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uh both studios are on serious

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lockdown all right you need to

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like i do right now visit

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get it i do it and uh richard

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um this is this is the thing

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you start to get into species

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right and to see you uh comment on

2450
01:40:57,910 --> 01:40:57,440
and go in depth in this book uh you left

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01:40:59,990 --> 01:40:57,920
nothing

2452
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untouched here right we've got it all

2453
01:41:05,510 --> 01:41:02,480
we've got it all we've got reptilians

2454
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right we've got hubrids uh

2455
01:41:09,590 --> 01:41:08,000
we've got mantas we've got just about

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ever of course the grays

2457
01:41:15,030 --> 01:41:12,880
um everything is here is this

2458
01:41:16,149 --> 01:41:15,040
is this uncomfortable are you were you

2459
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worried

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about these zones that you were going

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into

2462
01:41:23,350 --> 01:41:21,440
and also there are so many out there

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that know a lot about these subjects

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right

2465
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now you have to uh you have to bring

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your a game with this

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were you conscious of all of that

2468
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i wasn't particularly concerned about

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that look my whole

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career i've always been uh going into

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areas that everyone has said no you

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can't do that you're supposed to do this

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and my attitude is i will i will go

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where i want to go and i've always been

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that way um

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no i i don't think that i felt

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uncomfortable at all actually i was

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i felt honestly i it was a bit

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liberating

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to be able to write about some of these

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things in the way that i have

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um and i don't i don't feel a strong

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concern about having to be right or

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having

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to be the best at this i really honestly

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don't i'm at a point where i

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i wanted to write a book that satisfied

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myself first and foremost

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that answered that dealt with some

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interesting

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issues that i personally wanted to

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explore

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and that is why i did this book and

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hopefully if if readers

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want to come along for the ride and they

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like it fabulous

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but i will say that my number one

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audience for this book was myself and i

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wanted to

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so that i could figure a few things out

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and that's really what happened uh so

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for example

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one of the things that i i did conclude

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or at least i'm hypothesizing is

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when we talk about these other species

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the grays

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um and and all of the other non-human

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ones i

2509
01:42:58,709 --> 01:42:57,119
i feel fairly confident in saying when i

2510
01:43:01,350 --> 01:42:58,719
look at the data that they are

2511
01:43:03,430 --> 01:43:01,360
relatively all new arrivals they have

2512
01:43:05,590 --> 01:43:03,440
not been here for thousands of years

2513
01:43:06,950 --> 01:43:05,600
i just don't see that in the record

2514
01:43:12,629 --> 01:43:06,960
human

2515
01:43:15,430 --> 01:43:12,639
observers

2516
01:43:16,390 --> 01:43:15,440
yes when you go through the long history

2517
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:16,400
of encounters

2518
01:43:19,510 --> 01:43:18,000
if you go through like valet and chris

2519
01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:19,520
obeck's book wonders in the sky for

2520
01:43:25,030 --> 01:43:21,840
example that's a very good book

2521
01:43:27,590 --> 01:43:25,040
or other accounts of human

2522
01:43:29,830 --> 01:43:27,600
of our encounters with other beings

2523
01:43:32,950 --> 01:43:29,840
through the ancient times

2524
01:43:34,229 --> 01:43:32,960
many most actually of the more

2525
01:43:36,629 --> 01:43:34,239
credible encounters a lot of them are

2526
01:43:38,709 --> 01:43:36,639
not credible but the ones that are

2527
01:43:40,310 --> 01:43:38,719
there's a lot of human encounters that

2528
01:43:42,550 --> 01:43:40,320
people are having

2529
01:43:43,590 --> 01:43:42,560
and uh but there are no accounts of

2530
01:43:45,669 --> 01:43:43,600
grays

2531
01:43:47,350 --> 01:43:45,679
from 500 or a thousand or 2000 years ago

2532
01:43:50,390 --> 01:43:47,360
they're just they're not there

2533
01:43:52,149 --> 01:43:50,400
uh in ditto with the other other species

2534
01:43:53,669 --> 01:43:52,159
and you do start getting those in the

2535
01:43:55,109 --> 01:43:53,679
20th century and to me that makes

2536
01:43:58,149 --> 01:43:55,119
perfect sense

2537
01:43:59,990 --> 01:43:58,159
again it really comes down to the fact

2538
01:44:03,030 --> 01:44:00,000
that we went from a long-term

2539
01:44:05,270 --> 01:44:03,040
low-level monitoring operation to

2540
01:44:06,629 --> 01:44:05,280
something where our activities brought

2541
01:44:08,950 --> 01:44:06,639
the whole galactic neighborhood in

2542
01:44:11,030 --> 01:44:08,960
because they realized okay something now

2543
01:44:12,550 --> 01:44:11,040
big is happening on earth we're gonna go

2544
01:44:13,990 --> 01:44:12,560
see what these people are doing

2545
01:44:17,270 --> 01:44:14,000
and i i believe that that's what's

2546
01:44:20,709 --> 01:44:17,280
happened so you start getting

2547
01:44:23,430 --> 01:44:20,719
genuinely like large numbers of

2548
01:44:25,750 --> 01:44:23,440
good ufo sightings starting in the

2549
01:44:27,750 --> 01:44:25,760
latter half of the 19th century

2550
01:44:29,750 --> 01:44:27,760
you know particularly after like 1870

2551
01:44:31,830 --> 01:44:29,760
1880 actually

2552
01:44:33,750 --> 01:44:31,840
and that just picks up it's not that

2553
01:44:35,830 --> 01:44:33,760
there were none before that

2554
01:44:37,109 --> 01:44:35,840
but you get a lot more now and now part

2555
01:44:39,109 --> 01:44:37,119
of that is because

2556
01:44:40,229 --> 01:44:39,119
we developed an infrastructure where we

2557
01:44:42,070 --> 01:44:40,239
were able

2558
01:44:44,149 --> 01:44:42,080
to detect them more easily yes that's

2559
01:44:45,669 --> 01:44:44,159
all true but there's just so much more

2560
01:44:47,910 --> 01:44:45,679
quantity i don't think you can

2561
01:44:49,750 --> 01:44:47,920
look at it any other way they've come

2562
01:44:52,390 --> 01:44:49,760
here in greater numbers

2563
01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:52,400
there's a big infrastructure behind them

2564
01:44:54,950 --> 01:44:53,920
and so i think we just brought in the

2565
01:44:58,149 --> 01:44:54,960
neighborhood

2566
01:44:59,910 --> 01:44:58,159
and that means you're bringing in

2567
01:45:01,430 --> 01:44:59,920
potentially different groups i don't

2568
01:45:01,990 --> 01:45:01,440
know if they're all under one unified

2569
01:45:04,709 --> 01:45:02,000
leadership

2570
01:45:06,149 --> 01:45:04,719
or not but they could be a variety of

2571
01:45:08,790 --> 01:45:06,159
groups i think there's at least a couple

2572
01:45:11,510 --> 01:45:08,800
of different factions involved

2573
01:45:13,830 --> 01:45:11,520
and it's interesting that all of them

2574
01:45:17,109 --> 01:45:13,840
are very clandestine

2575
01:45:18,790 --> 01:45:17,119
like they're very secret they're they're

2576
01:45:21,030 --> 01:45:18,800
every bit as secret as the human elite

2577
01:45:23,510 --> 01:45:21,040
that's covering them up

2578
01:45:24,629 --> 01:45:23,520
and so uh well let me know okay also

2579
01:45:27,590 --> 01:45:24,639
something i try to explore

2580
01:45:29,030 --> 01:45:27,600
yes and see and and here's the thing uh

2581
01:45:32,070 --> 01:45:29,040
with this book

2582
01:45:33,669 --> 01:45:32,080
is that uh a skeptic or a physicist

2583
01:45:34,229 --> 01:45:33,679
right they're gonna go okay well okay

2584
01:45:36,149 --> 01:45:34,239
but

2585
01:45:38,629 --> 01:45:36,159
we we still have to deal with the fermi

2586
01:45:40,550 --> 01:45:38,639
paradox you know where are they

2587
01:45:42,470 --> 01:45:40,560
yes there must be lots of life out there

2588
01:45:45,430 --> 01:45:42,480
but there is no evidence of it

2589
01:45:47,189 --> 01:45:45,440
and then you look at your research here

2590
01:45:50,550 --> 01:45:47,199
and the way it's presented

2591
01:45:52,470 --> 01:45:50,560
and i always go back to uh those that

2592
01:45:54,390 --> 01:45:52,480
bring up the fermi paradox

2593
01:45:56,550 --> 01:45:54,400
and say look there's there's like

2594
01:46:00,310 --> 01:45:56,560
millions millions

2595
01:46:04,310 --> 01:46:00,320
of of cases out there and experiences

2596
01:46:07,350 --> 01:46:04,320
of not only abduction but direct contact

2597
01:46:11,270 --> 01:46:07,360
and communication eyewitness testimony

2598
01:46:14,149 --> 01:46:11,280
it's all over the place so they are here

2599
01:46:14,790 --> 01:46:14,159
is that is that the counter is a book

2600
01:46:16,629 --> 01:46:14,800
like this

2601
01:46:18,709 --> 01:46:16,639
the counter argument for the fermi

2602
01:46:20,470 --> 01:46:18,719
paradox yeah i hadn't really thought of

2603
01:46:21,910 --> 01:46:20,480
it in that way but yes why not

2604
01:46:23,590 --> 01:46:21,920
absolutely i think that's that's quite a

2605
01:46:26,229 --> 01:46:23,600
valid way to look at it

2606
01:46:26,709 --> 01:46:26,239
one of the things that i i think no one

2607
01:46:29,669 --> 01:46:26,719
like

2608
01:46:30,390 --> 01:46:29,679
abs no one that i'm aware of has really

2609
01:46:32,550 --> 01:46:30,400
talked about

2610
01:46:34,709 --> 01:46:32,560
is here's a reason why they may not be

2611
01:46:37,510 --> 01:46:34,719
announcing themselves openly

2612
01:46:39,109 --> 01:46:37,520
so let's say a large number of excuse me

2613
01:46:40,629 --> 01:46:39,119
large numbers of them arrive sometime in

2614
01:46:43,270 --> 01:46:40,639
the 20th century so like we

2615
01:46:44,790 --> 01:46:43,280
all know like during world war ii there

2616
01:46:45,990 --> 01:46:44,800
were many sightings of what we call foo

2617
01:46:48,790 --> 01:46:46,000
fighters

2618
01:46:50,550 --> 01:46:48,800
so let's just say that that some of that

2619
01:46:51,910 --> 01:46:50,560
was them

2620
01:46:54,390 --> 01:46:51,920
so here they are they come to us in the

2621
01:46:55,430 --> 01:46:54,400
20th century when we've had two world

2622
01:46:57,430 --> 01:46:55,440
wars

2623
01:46:59,750 --> 01:46:57,440
we've got you know in the world today

2624
01:47:02,709 --> 01:46:59,760
there are something like 200

2625
01:47:04,310 --> 01:47:02,719
allegedly sovereign nations of course

2626
01:47:04,709 --> 01:47:04,320
most of them are dominated by the united

2627
01:47:06,870 --> 01:47:04,719
states

2628
01:47:09,030 --> 01:47:06,880
and allies but there are 200 groups

2629
01:47:12,229 --> 01:47:09,040
you've got russia you've got china

2630
01:47:16,310 --> 01:47:12,239
you've got warfare all over

2631
01:47:18,149 --> 01:47:16,320
our planet and all of this volatility

2632
01:47:19,430 --> 01:47:18,159
like if they were to come and openly

2633
01:47:21,510 --> 01:47:19,440
announce themselves

2634
01:47:23,430 --> 01:47:21,520
just ask yourself like who are they

2635
01:47:24,470 --> 01:47:23,440
going to talk to

2636
01:47:26,629 --> 01:47:24,480
are they going to go to the united

2637
01:47:28,229 --> 01:47:26,639
nations are they going to like uh

2638
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:28,239
land in some field in the middle of

2639
01:47:31,030 --> 01:47:29,920
nowhere well they've done that

2640
01:47:33,270 --> 01:47:31,040
but are they going to announce

2641
01:47:36,310 --> 01:47:33,280
themselves like

2642
01:47:39,270 --> 01:47:36,320
we're in a very fractured world

2643
01:47:39,910 --> 01:47:39,280
there isn't a genuinely open unified

2644
01:47:42,070 --> 01:47:39,920
leadership

2645
01:47:43,830 --> 01:47:42,080
now there are there are you know the

2646
01:47:45,189 --> 01:47:43,840
bilderberg group and the world economic

2647
01:47:47,590 --> 01:47:45,199
forum guys and

2648
01:47:49,750 --> 01:47:47,600
there's the you know whatever black

2649
01:47:51,990 --> 01:47:49,760
budget powers and private corporations

2650
01:47:53,750 --> 01:47:52,000
that have dominant power over our world

2651
01:47:55,590 --> 01:47:53,760
and it's entirely possible by the way

2652
01:47:57,109 --> 01:47:55,600
that there is clandestine communication

2653
01:47:59,830 --> 01:47:57,119
going on from those

2654
01:48:01,109 --> 01:47:59,840
groups um i don't know that but i

2655
01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:01,119
couldn't rule it out

2656
01:48:04,870 --> 01:48:03,600
but the fact is that for any alien group

2657
01:48:06,790 --> 01:48:04,880
that's coming here let's say that

2658
01:48:09,030 --> 01:48:06,800
they're new to us

2659
01:48:10,550 --> 01:48:09,040
like maybe that's the case maybe they've

2660
01:48:13,590 --> 01:48:10,560
just arrived

2661
01:48:14,070 --> 01:48:13,600
and could they actually communicate with

2662
01:48:15,590 --> 01:48:14,080
us

2663
01:48:17,910 --> 01:48:15,600
first of all is a really good question

2664
01:48:19,109 --> 01:48:17,920
it'd be like asking could we communicate

2665
01:48:21,270 --> 01:48:19,119
with a group of

2666
01:48:22,629 --> 01:48:21,280
gorillas in the african lowlands you

2667
01:48:25,510 --> 01:48:22,639
know somewhere in africa

2668
01:48:27,109 --> 01:48:25,520
like we wouldn't be able to because they

2669
01:48:29,189 --> 01:48:27,119
operate on a different level and it

2670
01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:29,199
could be that these beings

2671
01:48:32,550 --> 01:48:30,400
think differently than us have a

2672
01:48:34,629 --> 01:48:32,560
different psychology than us

2673
01:48:35,590 --> 01:48:34,639
they may not be even mammalian like they

2674
01:48:37,270 --> 01:48:35,600
may not they

2675
01:48:38,950 --> 01:48:37,280
i've speculated about this for a long

2676
01:48:40,709 --> 01:48:38,960
time like they may not

2677
01:48:42,149 --> 01:48:40,719
something as simple as nursing at your

2678
01:48:43,990 --> 01:48:42,159
mother's breast

2679
01:48:45,669 --> 01:48:44,000
that's what mammals do that's what

2680
01:48:48,629 --> 01:48:45,679
creates psychological

2681
01:48:49,669 --> 01:48:48,639
need for like love and bonding and

2682
01:48:51,910 --> 01:48:49,679
families like

2683
01:48:52,709 --> 01:48:51,920
we don't know that they have any of that

2684
01:48:54,870 --> 01:48:52,719
they may not

2685
01:48:56,229 --> 01:48:54,880
work that way and so it might be very

2686
01:48:58,310 --> 01:48:56,239
difficult

2687
01:48:59,350 --> 01:48:58,320
for them actually to have communication

2688
01:49:01,990 --> 01:48:59,360
with us so

2689
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:02,000
i mean that's just one couple of reasons

2690
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:02,800
why

2691
01:49:05,830 --> 01:49:04,480
they might not just necessarily openly

2692
01:49:07,590 --> 01:49:05,840
announce themselves to us and work

2693
01:49:10,709 --> 01:49:07,600
behind the scenes

2694
01:49:11,430 --> 01:49:10,719
um it would be difficult and then of

2695
01:49:14,709 --> 01:49:11,440
course

2696
01:49:17,270 --> 01:49:14,719
if they are interested in

2697
01:49:18,310 --> 01:49:17,280
this planet as well as our species

2698
01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:18,320
because we have a

2699
01:49:22,790 --> 01:49:21,119
beautiful planet sure there's probably

2700
01:49:25,189 --> 01:49:22,800
billions of great planets out there

2701
01:49:27,990 --> 01:49:25,199
but earth is an absolutely stunning

2702
01:49:31,030 --> 01:49:28,000
place and we've got a very unique moon

2703
01:49:33,030 --> 01:49:31,040
that probably offers some protections

2704
01:49:34,790 --> 01:49:33,040
and maybe a certain value

2705
01:49:36,390 --> 01:49:34,800
to the quality of life on our planet we

2706
01:49:38,629 --> 01:49:36,400
know that that does in fact

2707
01:49:39,589 --> 01:49:38,639
like there's there's intrinsically great

2708
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:39,599
things about earth and

2709
01:49:43,510 --> 01:49:41,679
and maybe they don't want to screw up

2710
01:49:45,669 --> 01:49:43,520
earth maybe they don't want to come in

2711
01:49:47,189 --> 01:49:45,679
and invade openly with some armada

2712
01:49:49,750 --> 01:49:47,199
because that actually would destroy too

2713
01:49:51,270 --> 01:49:49,760
much of the planet so

2714
01:49:53,030 --> 01:49:51,280
if they want to influence if they want

2715
01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:53,040
to manipulate

2716
01:49:56,149 --> 01:49:54,880
they would want to do it covertly they

2717
01:49:59,270 --> 01:49:56,159
would want to do it

2718
01:50:01,030 --> 01:49:59,280
not in an open way because you know for

2719
01:50:01,990 --> 01:50:01,040
all the great things that human beings

2720
01:50:05,270 --> 01:50:02,000
are and we

2721
01:50:07,510 --> 01:50:05,280
i love humanity like there's so much

2722
01:50:08,870 --> 01:50:07,520
genius and nobility about us but we're a

2723
01:50:11,589 --> 01:50:08,880
real problem

2724
01:50:13,669 --> 01:50:11,599
like we are violent we are selfish we

2725
01:50:15,589 --> 01:50:13,679
are egotistical we are unpredictable and

2726
01:50:18,709 --> 01:50:15,599
volatile like all of those things

2727
01:50:21,510 --> 01:50:18,719
would make us difficult very possibly

2728
01:50:22,950 --> 01:50:21,520
for them to deal with now of course

2729
01:50:24,870 --> 01:50:22,960
there's not going to be much of a choice

2730
01:50:25,990 --> 01:50:24,880
in the near future say another 50 100

2731
01:50:28,390 --> 01:50:26,000
years at the most

2732
01:50:30,390 --> 01:50:28,400
because we are as i keep saying we're

2733
01:50:31,189 --> 01:50:30,400
transforming our civilization and the

2734
01:50:33,589 --> 01:50:31,199
very

2735
01:50:34,470 --> 01:50:33,599
nature of our species into something

2736
01:50:37,990 --> 01:50:34,480
totally different

2737
01:50:40,390 --> 01:50:38,000
and much start much more formidable

2738
01:50:42,709 --> 01:50:40,400
than we've ever been orders of magnitude

2739
01:50:45,830 --> 01:50:42,719
so right and when we have

2740
01:50:48,470 --> 01:50:45,840
uh millions and the

2741
01:50:49,990 --> 01:50:48,480
the numbers you can't measure right of

2742
01:50:52,390 --> 01:50:50,000
contact of sightings and

2743
01:50:53,910 --> 01:50:52,400
and interaction right and then you take

2744
01:50:57,430 --> 01:50:53,920
you take it to the next level

2745
01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:57,440
of uh not you but you just tackle it in

2746
01:51:02,149 --> 01:50:58,400
the book

2747
01:51:03,189 --> 01:51:02,159
of of abductions which even those out

2748
01:51:06,070 --> 01:51:03,199
there that may not know

2749
01:51:07,189 --> 01:51:06,080
that much about the ufo subject now

2750
01:51:10,229 --> 01:51:07,199
we're crossing

2751
01:51:13,350 --> 01:51:10,239
the line into a whole nother level of

2752
01:51:15,189 --> 01:51:13,360
acceptance to these experiences

2753
01:51:16,550 --> 01:51:15,199
but this is something that you tackled

2754
01:51:18,950 --> 01:51:16,560
pretty well in the book

2755
01:51:20,070 --> 01:51:18,960
thank you yeah well it's necessary of

2756
01:51:20,950 --> 01:51:20,080
course like if you're going to talk

2757
01:51:24,070 --> 01:51:20,960
about

2758
01:51:25,830 --> 01:51:24,080
these other beings in any deep way you

2759
01:51:27,270 --> 01:51:25,840
have to confront the phenomenon of

2760
01:51:29,910 --> 01:51:27,280
abductions

2761
01:51:30,390 --> 01:51:29,920
and this is a good place for me to just

2762
01:51:33,750 --> 01:51:30,400
mention

2763
01:51:37,510 --> 01:51:35,510
there are some stories in this book that

2764
01:51:39,669 --> 01:51:37,520
have appeared nowhere else

2765
01:51:41,109 --> 01:51:39,679
uh several from individuals that i i

2766
01:51:44,229 --> 01:51:41,119
know fairly well

2767
01:51:47,270 --> 01:51:44,239
and who've um offered them to me two

2768
01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:47,280
from my wife tracy uh she was really

2769
01:51:52,149 --> 01:51:49,920
generous in letting me write about them

2770
01:51:53,430 --> 01:51:52,159
uh one in particular of hers

2771
01:51:55,109 --> 01:51:53,440
is something that a few people have

2772
01:51:56,149 --> 01:51:55,119
already known about she has talked about

2773
01:51:59,270 --> 01:51:56,159
it we call it the

2774
01:52:01,990 --> 01:51:59,280
hooded being encounter and that is

2775
01:52:03,750 --> 01:52:02,000
that is a very interesting story indeed

2776
01:52:05,510 --> 01:52:03,760
but she allowed me to really go into

2777
01:52:08,390 --> 01:52:05,520
even greater depth than

2778
01:52:09,589 --> 01:52:08,400
even she had gone into it in the past

2779
01:52:11,030 --> 01:52:09,599
and um

2780
01:52:13,189 --> 01:52:11,040
and then she had another experience

2781
01:52:16,790 --> 01:52:13,199
which is

2782
01:52:19,270 --> 01:52:16,800
actually um interesting because

2783
01:52:20,709 --> 01:52:19,280
it almost seemed dreamlike but she was

2784
01:52:22,310 --> 01:52:20,719
quite convinced it's not a dream

2785
01:52:24,550 --> 01:52:22,320
and she has very good reasons for

2786
01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:24,560
thinking that and that was an encounter

2787
01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:25,040
which

2788
01:52:29,669 --> 01:52:27,520
with the being that i interpret this is

2789
01:52:30,950 --> 01:52:29,679
not necessarily her but i interpret as a

2790
01:52:33,510 --> 01:52:30,960
tall grey

2791
01:52:34,470 --> 01:52:33,520
but maybe maybe a mantid as well but a

2792
01:52:37,589 --> 01:52:34,480
very

2793
01:52:40,310 --> 01:52:37,599
uh a being that she

2794
01:52:41,270 --> 01:52:40,320
had and this is not unusual by the way a

2795
01:52:45,830 --> 01:52:41,280
being that she had a

2796
01:52:48,950 --> 01:52:45,840
very deep emotional bond with a female

2797
01:52:51,510 --> 01:52:48,960
a female being that

2798
01:52:53,589 --> 01:52:51,520
was very tall and very wise and very

2799
01:52:55,910 --> 01:52:53,599
profound and

2800
01:52:56,830 --> 01:52:55,920
and it affected tracy at a very deep

2801
01:53:00,390 --> 01:52:56,840
level

2802
01:53:01,750 --> 01:53:00,400
um so i i was very fortunate to be able

2803
01:53:03,430 --> 01:53:01,760
to include that in and

2804
01:53:05,030 --> 01:53:03,440
a number of individuals who came to me

2805
01:53:07,350 --> 01:53:05,040
with stories uh one and

2806
01:53:09,350 --> 01:53:07,360
one gentleman who had this just

2807
01:53:11,189 --> 01:53:09,360
astonishing uh encounter with a

2808
01:53:13,350 --> 01:53:11,199
reptilian type of a being

2809
01:53:14,950 --> 01:53:13,360
that came right to his bedroom and this

2810
01:53:15,510 --> 01:53:14,960
man was perfectly awake this was not a

2811
01:53:19,030 --> 01:53:15,520
dream

2812
01:53:21,750 --> 01:53:19,040
experience and i i know him

2813
01:53:23,430 --> 01:53:21,760
um i have a lot of respect for him and

2814
01:53:25,910 --> 01:53:23,440
there's not a reason in the world

2815
01:53:27,589 --> 01:53:25,920
why i would doubt any word that he says

2816
01:53:29,109 --> 01:53:27,599
um so there's actually some really

2817
01:53:30,629 --> 01:53:29,119
interesting stories that

2818
01:53:32,550 --> 01:53:30,639
have not appeared anywhere else and i

2819
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:32,560
was very lucky to have them well what's

2820
01:53:55,669 --> 01:53:32,960
the

2821
01:53:57,350 --> 01:53:55,679
i think abductions are happening so one

2822
01:54:00,550 --> 01:53:57,360
is yes the creation of

2823
01:54:02,390 --> 01:54:00,560
a kind of a hybrid species uh human

2824
01:54:05,589 --> 01:54:02,400
alien hybrid species

2825
01:54:07,750 --> 01:54:05,599
uh seemingly for purposes of

2826
01:54:09,350 --> 01:54:07,760
infiltration so what dave jacobs is

2827
01:54:12,070 --> 01:54:09,360
called the hubrids

2828
01:54:12,629 --> 01:54:12,080
you know human looking uh hybrid beings

2829
01:54:16,310 --> 01:54:12,639
they look

2830
01:54:19,350 --> 01:54:16,320
human but they retain

2831
01:54:21,750 --> 01:54:19,360
the core element of the gray slash

2832
01:54:23,510 --> 01:54:21,760
mantid uh genetics that's actually

2833
01:54:23,830 --> 01:54:23,520
david's theory is that the graves really

2834
01:54:26,070 --> 01:54:23,840
work

2835
01:54:28,629 --> 01:54:26,080
and were created by the mantids he may

2836
01:54:31,189 --> 01:54:28,639
be right he may not be i don't know but

2837
01:54:31,669 --> 01:54:31,199
the fact is that they are human looking

2838
01:54:33,510 --> 01:54:31,679
with

2839
01:54:34,870 --> 01:54:33,520
intense telepathy or mind control

2840
01:54:36,149 --> 01:54:34,880
capabilities

2841
01:54:38,229 --> 01:54:36,159
that allow them to do things so that

2842
01:54:42,070 --> 01:54:38,239
that's one theory now

2843
01:54:45,109 --> 01:54:42,080
um i don't know that that is

2844
01:54:46,229 --> 01:54:45,119
as david hypothesizes his theory is that

2845
01:54:47,910 --> 01:54:46,239
it's for

2846
01:54:49,510 --> 01:54:47,920
planetary takeover those are his two

2847
01:54:51,350 --> 01:54:49,520
words that he always uses

2848
01:54:52,870 --> 01:54:51,360
uh that they are essentially inserting

2849
01:54:53,510 --> 01:54:52,880
themselves into the human power

2850
01:54:55,030 --> 01:54:53,520
structure

2851
01:54:56,709 --> 01:54:55,040
to implement what is called the great

2852
01:55:00,310 --> 01:54:56,719
change

2853
01:55:02,470 --> 01:55:00,320
is that we're actually in it now

2854
01:55:03,510 --> 01:55:02,480
and they do talk about the great change

2855
01:55:05,030 --> 01:55:03,520
because they

2856
01:55:07,589 --> 01:55:05,040
they know that it is happening and

2857
01:55:08,950 --> 01:55:07,599
humanity is we're we're doing it right

2858
01:55:09,910 --> 01:55:08,960
now we're creating this new stage of

2859
01:55:12,229 --> 01:55:09,920
humanity

2860
01:55:13,830 --> 01:55:12,239
but they may want their own people in on

2861
01:55:16,709 --> 01:55:13,840
the end game

2862
01:55:18,629 --> 01:55:16,719
for their own purposes so hybrids is one

2863
01:55:20,310 --> 01:55:18,639
reason for abductions

2864
01:55:22,149 --> 01:55:20,320
and i think the other reason when you

2865
01:55:25,350 --> 01:55:22,159
look at a lot of these reports

2866
01:55:25,910 --> 01:55:25,360
and instances of abduction there they

2867
01:55:28,950 --> 01:55:25,920
don't

2868
01:55:30,870 --> 01:55:28,960
all deal with reproduction like

2869
01:55:33,109 --> 01:55:30,880
a lot of them do but a lot of them do

2870
01:55:35,669 --> 01:55:33,119
not uh

2871
01:55:36,470 --> 01:55:35,679
and uh a lot of them i think just deal

2872
01:55:38,870 --> 01:55:36,480
with

2873
01:55:39,910 --> 01:55:38,880
ongoing monitoring of our minds and

2874
01:55:42,070 --> 01:55:39,920
bodies

2875
01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:42,080
so i think that there are there seem to

2876
01:55:45,030 --> 01:55:42,960
be let's just say

2877
01:55:46,229 --> 01:55:45,040
brain implants and they don't even have

2878
01:55:47,750 --> 01:55:46,239
to be brain implants they can be

2879
01:55:49,510 --> 01:55:47,760
implants on a part of your nervous

2880
01:55:51,750 --> 01:55:49,520
system that can monitor the brain

2881
01:55:53,270 --> 01:55:51,760
even roger leer the late dr leer

2882
01:55:54,950 --> 01:55:53,280
hypothesized this

2883
01:55:56,550 --> 01:55:54,960
you have an implant and a key part of

2884
01:56:00,149 --> 01:55:56,560
the nervous system that can

2885
01:56:02,149 --> 01:56:00,159
allow them to monitor your thoughts or

2886
01:56:03,669 --> 01:56:02,159
your physiology or things like this so

2887
01:56:06,950 --> 01:56:03,679
would be a tracking

2888
01:56:08,870 --> 01:56:06,960
program why do you think um

2889
01:56:10,709 --> 01:56:08,880
uh you talk about in the book but i want

2890
01:56:13,990 --> 01:56:10,719
to go a little bit deeper than this

2891
01:56:16,629 --> 01:56:14,000
um why would a

2892
01:56:18,310 --> 01:56:16,639
species that has the time to get here

2893
01:56:19,589 --> 01:56:18,320
right they've studied us they've got all

2894
01:56:22,709 --> 01:56:19,599
the time in the world

2895
01:56:26,229 --> 01:56:22,719
um uh to appear in front of us

2896
01:56:29,510 --> 01:56:26,239
as a mantid as a reptilian as

2897
01:56:33,510 --> 01:56:29,520
you know some crazy insect looking

2898
01:56:36,709 --> 01:56:33,520
giant ant and scare the crap out of us

2899
01:56:40,310 --> 01:56:36,719
well a couple of reasons one is that um

2900
01:56:41,990 --> 01:56:40,320
there are many cases where these beings

2901
01:56:44,709 --> 01:56:42,000
clearly have the ability to disguise

2902
01:56:46,229 --> 01:56:44,719
their appearance right all right so that

2903
01:56:47,830 --> 01:56:46,239
absolutely happens

2904
01:56:49,589 --> 01:56:47,840
i mean there are cases where like gray

2905
01:56:50,870 --> 01:56:49,599
aliens are seen wearing like bizarre

2906
01:56:53,030 --> 01:56:50,880
clothing

2907
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:53,040
and that they can just change it's it's

2908
01:56:55,510 --> 01:56:54,239
crazy but

2909
01:56:57,830 --> 01:56:55,520
you get enough of these stories you have

2910
01:56:59,350 --> 01:56:57,840
to start thinking this might actually be

2911
01:57:02,390 --> 01:56:59,360
true

2912
01:57:03,910 --> 01:57:02,400
um in terms of their appearance like i i

2913
01:57:05,030 --> 01:57:03,920
don't know that they try to scare the

2914
01:57:06,550 --> 01:57:05,040
hell out of people one thing they

2915
01:57:06,950 --> 01:57:06,560
definitely are able to do is cognitive

2916
01:57:11,109 --> 01:57:06,960
and

2917
01:57:12,950 --> 01:57:11,119
that's absolutely a given

2918
01:57:14,870 --> 01:57:12,960
uh there are case after case and i've

2919
01:57:17,750 --> 01:57:14,880
got a number of these in the book where

2920
01:57:19,750 --> 01:57:17,760
um someone is is about to approach a

2921
01:57:23,109 --> 01:57:19,760
state of total panic

2922
01:57:23,990 --> 01:57:23,119
and deep like like beyond anxiety and

2923
01:57:25,750 --> 01:57:24,000
then somehow

2924
01:57:27,030 --> 01:57:25,760
a gray will come behind them and put

2925
01:57:30,149 --> 01:57:27,040
their hands over their head

2926
01:57:31,109 --> 01:57:30,159
and that panic goes away so they've got

2927
01:57:33,830 --> 01:57:31,119
the ability so

2928
01:57:35,830 --> 01:57:33,840
in that sense their appearance isn't

2929
01:57:37,510 --> 01:57:35,840
such a big deal if they're worried about

2930
01:57:39,430 --> 01:57:37,520
freaking people out because they do have

2931
01:57:42,390 --> 01:57:39,440
the ability to

2932
01:57:43,510 --> 01:57:42,400
manage our emotions very effectively not

2933
01:57:46,390 --> 01:57:43,520
every time

2934
01:57:48,070 --> 01:57:46,400
it's not complete their control is not

2935
01:57:48,790 --> 01:57:48,080
complete their ability to manage our

2936
01:57:51,350 --> 01:57:48,800
memory

2937
01:57:52,950 --> 01:57:51,360
is not complete there are always people

2938
01:57:55,430 --> 01:57:52,960
who are able to fight that

2939
01:57:57,430 --> 01:57:55,440
sometimes successfully and and this is

2940
01:57:58,070 --> 01:57:57,440
why i believe you've got some cases

2941
01:57:59,990 --> 01:57:58,080
where

2942
01:58:01,430 --> 01:58:00,000
people don't require hypnotic regression

2943
01:58:03,430 --> 01:58:01,440
to remember things

2944
01:58:05,430 --> 01:58:03,440
there are enough abduction accounts

2945
01:58:06,070 --> 01:58:05,440
where someone has a conscious memory of

2946
01:58:07,830 --> 01:58:06,080
it at the time

2947
01:58:10,229 --> 01:58:07,840
and they remember it or most of it the

2948
01:58:13,030 --> 01:58:10,239
next day that does happen

2949
01:58:14,629 --> 01:58:13,040
so the the alien control over our

2950
01:58:16,790 --> 01:58:14,639
cognitive capability

2951
01:58:18,149 --> 01:58:16,800
it's not a hundred percent it's very

2952
01:58:21,189 --> 01:58:18,159
strong though

2953
01:58:23,030 --> 01:58:21,199
it's very formidable um

2954
01:58:25,109 --> 01:58:23,040
why they look the way they do that i i

2955
01:58:26,470 --> 01:58:25,119
don't know um

2956
01:58:28,070 --> 01:58:26,480
you know the only thing you could

2957
01:58:29,750 --> 01:58:28,080
hypothesize is that either they

2958
01:58:31,910 --> 01:58:29,760
naturally look like that or

2959
01:58:32,870 --> 01:58:31,920
as i believe in the case of the short

2960
01:58:34,870 --> 01:58:32,880
grays

2961
01:58:36,950 --> 01:58:34,880
there's some level of genetic

2962
01:58:37,910 --> 01:58:36,960
manipulation artificial creation about

2963
01:58:41,750 --> 01:58:37,920
them

2964
01:58:43,669 --> 01:58:41,760
you know for example whereas tall grays

2965
01:58:45,430 --> 01:58:43,679
definitely come across to abductees with

2966
01:58:46,950 --> 01:58:45,440
one gender or another like you've got

2967
01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:46,960
you get tall graves who come across as

2968
01:58:50,310 --> 01:58:48,960
male or female

2969
01:58:51,830 --> 01:58:50,320
you don't get that with short grays i

2970
01:58:52,950 --> 01:58:51,840
don't know of any cases like the short

2971
01:58:56,070 --> 01:58:52,960
grays are

2972
01:58:57,189 --> 01:58:56,080
totally gender neutral and there's

2973
01:58:58,709 --> 01:58:57,199
i mean i don't even know if you could

2974
01:58:59,189 --> 01:58:58,719
tell the difference between a male tall

2975
01:59:02,390 --> 01:58:59,199
gray

2976
01:59:04,629 --> 01:59:02,400
them but they can

2977
01:59:06,149 --> 01:59:04,639
they somehow generate that vibe as it

2978
01:59:07,910 --> 01:59:06,159
were to abductees

2979
01:59:10,870 --> 01:59:07,920
but the short grays don't seem to do

2980
01:59:14,629 --> 01:59:10,880
that they seem to be totally neutral

2981
01:59:16,310 --> 01:59:14,639
and and really if you want a worker bee

2982
01:59:18,390 --> 01:59:16,320
population like that why would you give

2983
01:59:20,950 --> 01:59:18,400
them the ultimate distraction of sex

2984
01:59:22,550 --> 01:59:20,960
organs i mean you know and ego and

2985
01:59:24,709 --> 01:59:22,560
things like that like you wouldn't

2986
01:59:26,070 --> 01:59:24,719
you want them for a purpose their job is

2987
01:59:31,589 --> 01:59:26,080
to

2988
01:59:33,109 --> 01:59:31,599
letting them have sex with each other is

2989
01:59:34,149 --> 01:59:33,119
probably just a distraction like why

2990
01:59:37,510 --> 01:59:34,159
bother

2991
01:59:39,990 --> 01:59:37,520
well i look at it this is this is uh

2992
01:59:40,550 --> 01:59:40,000
this is it's a little outside of the box

2993
01:59:43,589 --> 01:59:40,560
but

2994
01:59:44,629 --> 01:59:43,599
look at it this way you have cro-magnon

2995
01:59:48,070 --> 01:59:44,639
and neanderthal

2996
01:59:51,270 --> 01:59:48,080
right and then you have us smooth

2997
01:59:52,229 --> 01:59:51,280
we are we are cro-magnon uh no no no we

2998
01:59:54,390 --> 01:59:52,239
don't look anything

2999
01:59:55,830 --> 01:59:54,400
like a chrome what i'm saying is this we

3000
01:59:57,830 --> 01:59:55,840
are the cro-magnons

3001
01:59:59,669 --> 01:59:57,840
are us they were homo sapien sapiens

3002
02:00:01,750 --> 01:59:59,679
okay okay

3003
02:00:03,669 --> 02:00:01,760
stick to that stick to stick to that

3004
02:00:06,950 --> 02:00:03,679
richard but what i am saying

3005
02:00:10,149 --> 02:00:06,960
is we are unique

3006
02:00:14,310 --> 02:00:10,159
looking and we will continue

3007
02:00:17,910 --> 02:00:14,320
to evolve and 10 000 years from now

3008
02:00:21,350 --> 02:00:17,920
20 000 years from now we may evolve

3009
02:00:24,149 --> 02:00:21,360
into a tall gray right we

3010
02:00:26,550 --> 02:00:24,159
we may make that change and maybe that's

3011
02:00:28,229 --> 02:00:26,560
just what we're seeing when we see it

3012
02:00:30,310 --> 02:00:28,239
one of the best arguments for time

3013
02:00:30,950 --> 02:00:30,320
travel ufos is exactly what you've just

3014
02:00:32,950 --> 02:00:30,960
said like

3015
02:00:34,950 --> 02:00:32,960
yeah it isn't that hard for us to

3016
02:00:37,030 --> 02:00:34,960
envision

3017
02:00:39,430 --> 02:00:37,040
future genetic manipulation and we end

3018
02:00:41,910 --> 02:00:39,440
up looking maybe like that yeah

3019
02:00:43,030 --> 02:00:41,920
yes it's possible yeah yeah yeah the end

3020
02:00:47,189 --> 02:00:43,040
of if you go

3021
02:00:50,629 --> 02:00:47,199
to um i hate uh doing the hollywood

3022
02:00:52,390 --> 02:00:50,639
uh uh analogy but i'm gonna do it here

3023
02:00:54,550 --> 02:00:52,400
if you go to the end of artificial

3024
02:00:55,430 --> 02:00:54,560
intelligence ai right by steven

3025
02:00:58,550 --> 02:00:55,440
spielberg

3026
02:01:01,589 --> 02:00:58,560
that last scene where e.t

3027
02:01:03,990 --> 02:01:01,599
is visiting us and investigating and

3028
02:01:05,510 --> 02:01:04,000
they make the contact but that's that's

3029
02:01:08,310 --> 02:01:05,520
a pure

3030
02:01:08,629 --> 02:01:08,320
tall gray light being right that has

3031
02:01:11,189 --> 02:01:08,639
just

3032
02:01:12,229 --> 02:01:11,199
evolved into that no more meat sack

3033
02:01:14,870 --> 02:01:12,239
right

3034
02:01:16,310 --> 02:01:14,880
probably no more food so funny i almost

3035
02:01:18,229 --> 02:01:16,320
watched that movie last night i was

3036
02:01:20,149 --> 02:01:18,239
flipping for sci-fi and um

3037
02:01:21,270 --> 02:01:20,159
nearly nearly went there it's always a

3038
02:01:22,629 --> 02:01:21,280
good go-to

3039
02:01:24,229 --> 02:01:22,639
that's always a good i ended up watching

3040
02:01:25,350 --> 02:01:24,239
the first blade runner which was which

3041
02:01:27,270 --> 02:01:25,360
was not bad

3042
02:01:28,470 --> 02:01:27,280
you know what i we do that a few times a

3043
02:01:30,229 --> 02:01:28,480
year

3044
02:01:31,830 --> 02:01:30,239
there's things that you have to just go

3045
02:01:36,149 --> 02:01:31,840
and just refresh and

3046
02:01:37,270 --> 02:01:36,159
and and you always catch something you

3047
02:01:40,390 --> 02:01:37,280
always catch it

3048
02:01:43,430 --> 02:01:40,400
like man wait i've seen this 50 times

3049
02:01:44,149 --> 02:01:43,440
did you know that was in there i'm gonna

3050
02:01:45,830 --> 02:01:44,159
you're gonna laugh

3051
02:01:47,189 --> 02:01:45,840
i actually have not seen spielberg's

3052
02:01:48,790 --> 02:01:47,199
artificial intelligence i almost

3053
02:01:53,109 --> 02:01:48,800
boycotted it i don't know why

3054
02:01:54,709 --> 02:01:53,119
but i i let me tell you why i

3055
02:01:57,030 --> 02:01:54,719
you just cut off there i think you hit

3056
02:02:00,149 --> 02:01:57,040
the mute button

3057
02:02:02,950 --> 02:02:00,159
oh did we lose oh no but you froze okay

3058
02:02:03,350 --> 02:02:02,960
did i freeze no we got you now you froze

3059
02:02:05,189 --> 02:02:03,360
on my

3060
02:02:06,709 --> 02:02:05,199
i'm looking at you yeah but okay i

3061
02:02:08,550 --> 02:02:06,719
didn't mute it it was just

3062
02:02:10,470 --> 02:02:08,560
we had a little glitch yeah i'm looking

3063
02:02:12,790 --> 02:02:10,480
here i'm solid so that's uh

3064
02:02:14,629 --> 02:02:12,800
that's the rochester uh i'm sure it's my

3065
02:02:17,510 --> 02:02:14,639
fault yes i'm gonna take the hit on this

3066
02:02:18,470 --> 02:02:17,520
of course of course um but uh the thing

3067
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is about

3068
02:02:22,390 --> 02:02:21,440
a.i and you've got to prepare yourself

3069
02:02:25,109 --> 02:02:22,400
for this

3070
02:02:25,910 --> 02:02:25,119
the the first 10 minutes of the movie i

3071
02:02:29,350 --> 02:02:25,920
almost

3072
02:02:30,629 --> 02:02:29,360
need to fast forward because there is a

3073
02:02:34,390 --> 02:02:30,639
scene

3074
02:02:35,109 --> 02:02:34,400
in the woods with mom you just remember

3075
02:02:37,430 --> 02:02:35,119
that are you

3076
02:02:39,270 --> 02:02:37,440
tonight after the show you and tracy

3077
02:02:40,229 --> 02:02:39,280
that's it pull up the blankie get some

3078
02:02:42,070 --> 02:02:40,239
popcorn

3079
02:02:44,470 --> 02:02:42,080
watching i'm gonna go check it out yeah

3080
02:02:47,109 --> 02:02:44,480
watch ai and just remember that first 10

3081
02:02:49,350 --> 02:02:47,119
minutes and you're gonna go to church

3082
02:02:50,470 --> 02:02:49,360
you were right man next time around i'm

3083
02:02:52,310 --> 02:02:50,480
gonna fast forward

3084
02:02:53,910 --> 02:02:52,320
let's take our break right here this is

3085
02:02:56,550 --> 02:02:53,920
fade to black our guest tonight

3086
02:02:57,189 --> 02:02:56,560
richard bleepin dolan got a lot more to

3087
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talk about

3088
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the new book is the alien agendas the

3089
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3090
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3091
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3092
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after this short break stay with

3093
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3094
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3163
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3164
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you can see them flying or running

3165
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across the floor

3166
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oh yuck they're unhealthy gross and

3167
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3168
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3170
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3204
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3208
02:08:24,229 --> 02:08:22,239
welcome back paid to black i'm your host

3209
02:08:28,229 --> 02:08:24,239
jimmy church tonight richard

3210
02:08:30,629 --> 02:08:28,239
dolan one segment left one segment left

3211
02:08:32,950 --> 02:08:30,639
the new book is the alien agendas and

3212
02:08:35,350 --> 02:08:32,960
that is plural the links for the book

3213
02:08:36,870 --> 02:08:35,360
are over at jimmychurchradio.com you can

3214
02:08:37,830 --> 02:08:36,880
go and do that and richard told us

3215
02:08:39,350 --> 02:08:37,840
earlier in the show he's got an

3216
02:08:41,270 --> 02:08:39,360
audiobook coming out

3217
02:08:42,790 --> 02:08:41,280
and i think he wanted to say that i was

3218
02:08:44,790 --> 02:08:42,800
doing the audiobook and

3219
02:08:45,910 --> 02:08:44,800
and thank you for the offer on on that

3220
02:08:48,870 --> 02:08:45,920
return but

3221
02:08:50,229 --> 02:08:48,880
uh i appreciate that but yeah audiobooks

3222
02:08:53,589 --> 02:08:50,239
are the way to go man

3223
02:08:56,950 --> 02:08:53,599
uh it's uh i um may i mention

3224
02:09:00,149 --> 02:08:56,960
another thing yes relating to audiobooks

3225
02:09:00,709 --> 02:09:00,159
um ufos for the 21st century mind now

3226
02:09:03,910 --> 02:09:00,719
exists

3227
02:09:05,189 --> 02:09:03,920
in a spanish translation and we are just

3228
02:09:08,550 --> 02:09:05,199
about ready with the

3229
02:09:11,589 --> 02:09:08,560
spanish audio of that book

3230
02:09:13,589 --> 02:09:11,599
yeah man international

3231
02:09:16,069 --> 02:09:13,599
we're trying to work the system here

3232
02:09:18,709 --> 02:09:16,079
international metropolitan

3233
02:09:20,229 --> 02:09:18,719
we are we uh this is really tracy's

3234
02:09:23,430 --> 02:09:20,239
organization thank god but

3235
02:09:25,350 --> 02:09:23,440
we're getting audio books done for um

3236
02:09:27,430 --> 02:09:25,360
most or all of my other books as well so

3237
02:09:29,430 --> 02:09:27,440
we're we have an audio reader

3238
02:09:31,189 --> 02:09:29,440
for ufos national security state volumes

3239
02:09:32,149 --> 02:09:31,199
one and two we're definitely having

3240
02:09:35,669 --> 02:09:32,159
those

3241
02:09:38,629 --> 02:09:35,679
uh ready for audiobook and uh

3242
02:09:39,990 --> 02:09:38,639
my uh shorter booklets as well are going

3243
02:09:41,109 --> 02:09:40,000
to be for audio i can't do after

3244
02:09:41,830 --> 02:09:41,119
disclosure because that's another

3245
02:09:43,189 --> 02:09:41,840
publisher

3246
02:09:45,030 --> 02:09:43,199
and they've already got that as an audio

3247
02:09:46,149 --> 02:09:45,040
book yeah but i have i have the rights

3248
02:09:49,430 --> 02:09:46,159
to the other ones yeah

3249
02:09:51,030 --> 02:09:49,440
i uh when it comes to hard science and

3250
02:09:54,310 --> 02:09:51,040
physics and things

3251
02:09:56,790 --> 02:09:54,320
audio books man i drive rita crazy

3252
02:09:58,069 --> 02:09:56,800
you know 16. now many people yeah you

3253
02:10:00,709 --> 02:09:58,079
know i it's uh

3254
02:10:01,270 --> 02:10:00,719
lots of pardon me lots of people like

3255
02:10:03,189 --> 02:10:01,280
audio

3256
02:10:04,390 --> 02:10:03,199
and it's you know you're working around

3257
02:10:05,990 --> 02:10:04,400
the house you want to hear something if

3258
02:10:07,589 --> 02:10:06,000
you're driving and so forth not everyone

3259
02:10:09,669 --> 02:10:07,599
just wants to be reading

3260
02:10:11,189 --> 02:10:09,679
words on a page it took me a long time

3261
02:10:12,629 --> 02:10:11,199
to kind of get on to that like to

3262
02:10:14,950 --> 02:10:12,639
realize

3263
02:10:16,790 --> 02:10:14,960
um that that's actually a very big

3264
02:10:17,990 --> 02:10:16,800
desire that many people have so we're we

3265
02:10:21,910 --> 02:10:18,000
are working on all of that

3266
02:10:25,109 --> 02:10:21,920
yeah at night heading to bed audiobook

3267
02:10:27,030 --> 02:10:25,119
just right right through tonight um now

3268
02:10:28,709 --> 02:10:27,040
okay here's the deal let's let's

3269
02:10:32,149 --> 02:10:28,719
actually uh go here

3270
02:10:36,310 --> 02:10:32,159
which is this um

3271
02:10:37,750 --> 02:10:36,320
you in your conclusion you discuss

3272
02:10:39,669 --> 02:10:37,760
some of the things that you've talked a

3273
02:10:40,629 --> 02:10:39,679
lot about in depth uh which is

3274
02:10:44,069 --> 02:10:40,639
disclosure

3275
02:10:45,990 --> 02:10:44,079
and and what does washington know what

3276
02:10:47,510 --> 02:10:46,000
is the military-industrial conflict with

3277
02:10:49,830 --> 02:10:47,520
the department of defense

3278
02:10:50,550 --> 02:10:49,840
and you address it here but let me ask

3279
02:10:54,149 --> 02:10:50,560
you this

3280
02:10:56,470 --> 02:10:54,159
in totality with what this book covers

3281
02:10:57,270 --> 02:10:56,480
which is uh you know abductions

3282
02:11:00,550 --> 02:10:57,280
interaction

3283
02:11:01,030 --> 02:11:00,560
contact uh different species and so

3284
02:11:04,790 --> 02:11:01,040
forth

3285
02:11:09,109 --> 02:11:04,800
how much of that how much of that do you

3286
02:11:12,149 --> 02:11:11,189
so yeah by government i i guess we can

3287
02:11:14,390 --> 02:11:12,159
just agree

3288
02:11:15,830 --> 02:11:14,400
that we're talking about whatever elite

3289
02:11:18,870 --> 02:11:15,840
group of individuals

3290
02:11:19,589 --> 02:11:18,880
that that is the machine that's got yeah

3291
02:11:24,709 --> 02:11:19,599
so

3292
02:11:27,109 --> 02:11:24,719
right um yeah i do talk about this and

3293
02:11:28,790 --> 02:11:27,119
and the fact is i don't think we can be

3294
02:11:30,709 --> 02:11:28,800
sure that they've got all the goods on

3295
02:11:34,069 --> 02:11:30,719
this either

3296
02:11:35,350 --> 02:11:34,079
uh you know i mean you listen to people

3297
02:11:37,910 --> 02:11:35,360
talking about this today like

3298
02:11:40,629 --> 02:11:37,920
um i'm a big fan of listening to the

3299
02:11:44,790 --> 02:11:40,639
remarks of dr eric davis for example

3300
02:11:46,629 --> 02:11:44,800
who of many people out there has got

3301
02:11:48,950 --> 02:11:46,639
lots of classified clearances and he

3302
02:11:51,990 --> 02:11:48,960
clearly knows a lot about

3303
02:11:53,830 --> 02:11:52,000
this phenomenon it's very obvious

3304
02:11:55,990 --> 02:11:53,840
and you know i listen to what he says

3305
02:11:58,870 --> 02:11:56,000
and his attitude is look

3306
02:12:00,310 --> 02:11:58,880
we are taking the babiest of baby steps

3307
02:12:03,589 --> 02:12:00,320
in trying to understand

3308
02:12:05,350 --> 02:12:03,599
how to do what they do and he's not the

3309
02:12:07,510 --> 02:12:05,360
only one who says this i think

3310
02:12:08,470 --> 02:12:07,520
what we're really looking at is a point

3311
02:12:12,310 --> 02:12:08,480
where

3312
02:12:15,669 --> 02:12:12,320
their science remains

3313
02:12:18,709 --> 02:12:15,679
vastly beyond what we are able to

3314
02:12:19,030 --> 02:12:18,719
to replicate and to do we can try our

3315
02:12:22,790 --> 02:12:19,040
own

3316
02:12:24,229 --> 02:12:22,800
versions of their technology but we

3317
02:12:25,910 --> 02:12:24,239
we're doing it with our science and our

3318
02:12:27,589 --> 02:12:25,920
materials and and we really can't

3319
02:12:31,030 --> 02:12:27,599
duplicate it

3320
02:12:33,189 --> 02:12:31,040
in terms of the grand strategy of these

3321
02:12:36,390 --> 02:12:33,199
beings

3322
02:12:39,589 --> 02:12:36,400
it is not clear to me that even the

3323
02:12:42,470 --> 02:12:39,599
highest elites of our society

3324
02:12:43,350 --> 02:12:42,480
know all of what's going on now but let

3325
02:12:46,390 --> 02:12:43,360
me just say this

3326
02:12:51,669 --> 02:12:50,069
if if you want to

3327
02:12:53,510 --> 02:12:51,679
if we were to argue that there's

3328
02:12:57,109 --> 02:12:53,520
infiltration going on

3329
02:12:59,589 --> 02:12:57,119
like that's an easy argument at least

3330
02:13:02,629 --> 02:12:59,599
on the phase of it to make like would it

3331
02:13:05,189 --> 02:13:02,639
be difficult for them and even if

3332
02:13:07,109 --> 02:13:05,199
um they don't have their own hubris

3333
02:13:07,910 --> 02:13:07,119
hubris excuse me inserted into the power

3334
02:13:09,109 --> 02:13:07,920
structure

3335
02:13:11,510 --> 02:13:09,119
would it be difficult for them to

3336
02:13:13,270 --> 02:13:11,520
control any number of

3337
02:13:14,870 --> 02:13:13,280
the human power elite for their own

3338
02:13:18,069 --> 02:13:14,880
purposes i don't think it'd be hard at

3339
02:13:21,109 --> 02:13:18,079
all whether by blackmail or persuasion

3340
02:13:21,830 --> 02:13:21,119
or just some form of control or threats

3341
02:13:25,030 --> 02:13:21,840
or fear

3342
02:13:26,550 --> 02:13:25,040
like that wouldn't be difficult if one

3343
02:13:29,669 --> 02:13:26,560
of those groups wanted to do

3344
02:13:32,550 --> 02:13:29,679
that and i guess what i'm

3345
02:13:34,229 --> 02:13:32,560
i'm thinking is that there probably are

3346
02:13:36,870 --> 02:13:34,239
some individuals

3347
02:13:38,470 --> 02:13:36,880
in our power structure who who do know

3348
02:13:41,350 --> 02:13:38,480
who probably do know a lot

3349
02:13:42,709 --> 02:13:41,360
and then the question is whose side are

3350
02:13:45,910 --> 02:13:42,719
they on

3351
02:13:49,589 --> 02:13:45,920
they like

3352
02:13:51,350 --> 02:13:49,599
uh you know native rulers of uh

3353
02:13:53,350 --> 02:13:51,360
that of a primitive let me say primitive

3354
02:13:55,030 --> 02:13:53,360
societies encountering the europeans

3355
02:13:56,550 --> 02:13:55,040
and selling their own people out that's

3356
02:13:58,629 --> 02:13:56,560
right that's right like is that

3357
02:13:59,589 --> 02:13:58,639
is that they got to have a leg up on

3358
02:14:01,189 --> 02:13:59,599
things

3359
02:14:02,950 --> 02:14:01,199
i'm sorry you go they have to have a leg

3360
02:14:03,430 --> 02:14:02,960
up on iran right you got to have a leg

3361
02:14:06,069 --> 02:14:03,440
up on

3362
02:14:07,510 --> 02:14:06,079
russia we've got to we've got to fill

3363
02:14:10,069 --> 02:14:07,520
the missile gap

3364
02:14:13,510 --> 02:14:10,079
we this is technology that there's

3365
02:14:15,109 --> 02:14:13,520
always that angle that is in play

3366
02:14:17,990 --> 02:14:15,119
that's what happened when the the

3367
02:14:19,830 --> 02:14:18,000
conquistadors met with the aztecs

3368
02:14:21,109 --> 02:14:19,840
the aztecs crumbled partly because they

3369
02:14:23,669 --> 02:14:21,119
were hated

3370
02:14:24,629 --> 02:14:23,679
by their rival groups in the area of

3371
02:14:26,870 --> 02:14:24,639
mexico

3372
02:14:27,669 --> 02:14:26,880
and there's you always get these

3373
02:14:29,350 --> 02:14:27,679
rivalries and

3374
02:14:31,030 --> 02:14:29,360
and one group willing to sell out

3375
02:14:34,069 --> 02:14:31,040
another group and so on and

3376
02:14:36,069 --> 02:14:34,079
um i think why would that be so

3377
02:14:37,510 --> 02:14:36,079
difficult to imagine that we do it again

3378
02:14:39,270 --> 02:14:37,520
here

3379
02:14:41,189 --> 02:14:39,280
the fact is that i don't i can't say

3380
02:14:43,910 --> 02:14:41,199
that i know

3381
02:14:45,270 --> 02:14:43,920
uh what because i'm not in the club so i

3382
02:14:46,550 --> 02:14:45,280
don't i don't get invited to the

3383
02:14:47,990 --> 02:14:46,560
bilderberg meetings i don't know what

3384
02:14:50,790 --> 02:14:48,000
they have to say about this

3385
02:14:51,910 --> 02:14:50,800
um i can speculate that there's probably

3386
02:14:54,310 --> 02:14:51,920
some

3387
02:14:55,669 --> 02:14:54,320
people who have a lot of knowledge and

3388
02:14:56,390 --> 02:14:55,679
who they're working for is a really good

3389
02:14:58,229 --> 02:14:56,400
question to ask

3390
02:14:59,510 --> 02:14:58,239
i mean even if you take aliens out of

3391
02:15:02,390 --> 02:14:59,520
the whole equation

3392
02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:02,400
and you look at the elite dominant

3393
02:15:05,589 --> 02:15:04,320
players of our civilization

3394
02:15:07,109 --> 02:15:05,599
i don't think it'd be easy to say that

3395
02:15:07,990 --> 02:15:07,119
they're working for the mass of humanity

3396
02:15:11,910 --> 02:15:08,000
they clearly are

3397
02:15:14,229 --> 02:15:11,920
not like let's just put this out there

3398
02:15:15,350 --> 02:15:14,239
the people who are running global policy

3399
02:15:18,550 --> 02:15:15,360
right now

3400
02:15:20,550 --> 02:15:18,560
don't give a rat's ass about the fate of

3401
02:15:22,950 --> 02:15:20,560
the mass of humanity they don't care

3402
02:15:25,189 --> 02:15:22,960
about that they don't care

3403
02:15:26,310 --> 02:15:25,199
they are about control and creating a

3404
02:15:28,790 --> 02:15:26,320
new system

3405
02:15:30,069 --> 02:15:28,800
and benefiting from it and so i don't

3406
02:15:30,629 --> 02:15:30,079
think it's all that much of a stretch to

3407
02:15:32,470 --> 02:15:30,639
see that

3408
02:15:34,390 --> 02:15:32,480
you get you bring these other

3409
02:15:35,589 --> 02:15:34,400
extraterrestrials or these other beings

3410
02:15:37,750 --> 02:15:35,599
in

3411
02:15:39,030 --> 02:15:37,760
and they may have their own agenda the

3412
02:15:39,830 --> 02:15:39,040
one thing that i do wonder about in

3413
02:15:41,669 --> 02:15:39,840
terms of

3414
02:15:42,870 --> 02:15:41,679
various alien agendas because i guess

3415
02:15:45,350 --> 02:15:42,880
you've pointed out

3416
02:15:46,629 --> 02:15:45,360
there's plural in that it's not agenda

3417
02:15:49,589 --> 02:15:46,639
um

3418
02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:49,599
like i do wonder if there is a group

3419
02:15:53,910 --> 02:15:51,760
that is trying to look out for us

3420
02:15:55,750 --> 02:15:53,920
what about those beings that may have

3421
02:15:58,229 --> 02:15:55,760
been monitoring us

3422
02:15:59,270 --> 02:15:58,239
for all these thousands of years do they

3423
02:16:02,470 --> 02:15:59,280
look at us

3424
02:16:03,430 --> 02:16:02,480
as you know where their racket where

3425
02:16:05,189 --> 02:16:03,440
their protection

3426
02:16:07,270 --> 02:16:05,199
as charles ford wrote a hundred years

3427
02:16:10,790 --> 02:16:07,280
ago i think we're property

3428
02:16:13,030 --> 02:16:10,800
is that the case and do they feel

3429
02:16:14,550 --> 02:16:13,040
proprietary over us and are they having

3430
02:16:16,550 --> 02:16:14,560
a struggle with these other

3431
02:16:18,950 --> 02:16:16,560
groups that may be here now i mean this

3432
02:16:21,189 --> 02:16:18,960
is all speculation but

3433
02:16:22,149 --> 02:16:21,199
i don't see that as outrageous at least

3434
02:16:24,149 --> 02:16:22,159
to think about

3435
02:16:25,189 --> 02:16:24,159
that there may be something behind the

3436
02:16:26,790 --> 02:16:25,199
scenes

3437
02:16:29,189 --> 02:16:26,800
now why it's not out in the open for all

3438
02:16:31,430 --> 02:16:29,199
of us to see that's a good question

3439
02:16:32,309 --> 02:16:31,440
what have you just even after you you

3440
02:16:35,349 --> 02:16:32,319
after writing

3441
02:16:36,870 --> 02:16:35,359
i'm so sorry hitchhiker's guide to the

3442
02:16:40,790 --> 02:16:36,880
galaxy

3443
02:16:42,469 --> 02:16:40,800
right the end of the movie earth

3444
02:16:44,830 --> 02:16:42,479
right it's like well we got to build a

3445
02:16:48,389 --> 02:16:44,840
highway right

3446
02:16:49,110 --> 02:16:48,399
we you're in the way all right no big

3447
02:16:50,790 --> 02:16:49,120
deal we're going to be

3448
02:16:52,549 --> 02:16:50,800
right they come in for like a bulldozing

3449
02:16:55,030 --> 02:16:52,559
project and everything's got to be

3450
02:16:56,230 --> 02:16:55,040
and they they you know earth is uh going

3451
02:16:59,589 --> 02:16:56,240
away in eight minutes

3452
02:17:01,910 --> 02:16:59,599
you know and so uh but we're gonna build

3453
02:17:03,349 --> 02:17:01,920
a duplicate earth over here don't you

3454
02:17:06,309 --> 02:17:03,359
worry about it but

3455
02:17:09,830 --> 02:17:06,319
but this version is just in the way we

3456
02:17:13,429 --> 02:17:12,549
yeah totally but we have to kind of look

3457
02:17:17,110 --> 02:17:13,439
at it that way

3458
02:17:18,469 --> 02:17:17,120
and i'm okay with it because and i'll

3459
02:17:21,750 --> 02:17:18,479
tell you why

3460
02:17:23,589 --> 02:17:21,760
um there is no way

3461
02:17:24,950 --> 02:17:23,599
that any of us actually know what's

3462
02:17:28,870 --> 02:17:24,960
going on

3463
02:17:31,190 --> 02:17:28,880
right and when we look at the uh the

3464
02:17:33,030 --> 02:17:31,200
michio kaku said it so many times right

3465
02:17:33,349 --> 02:17:33,040
that we're just ants on the ground we're

3466
02:17:36,150 --> 02:17:33,359
not

3467
02:17:38,389 --> 02:17:36,160
teaching ants how to drive cars right

3468
02:17:40,870 --> 02:17:38,399
we're not teaching ants how to build an

3469
02:17:43,349 --> 02:17:40,880
internet we're not concerned about the

3470
02:17:46,070 --> 02:17:43,359
survival of ant colonies

3471
02:17:49,750 --> 02:17:46,080
right now even though that sounds very

3472
02:17:53,110 --> 02:17:52,150
wait a minute here there's nothing wrong

3473
02:17:55,750 --> 02:17:53,120
with that because

3474
02:17:56,629 --> 02:17:55,760
we do the same thing when we go into

3475
02:18:00,709 --> 02:17:56,639
jungles

3476
02:18:01,669 --> 02:18:00,719
and we abduct right some new species and

3477
02:18:04,790 --> 02:18:01,679
pry it away

3478
02:18:06,950 --> 02:18:04,800
much worse yes we're

3479
02:18:08,709 --> 02:18:06,960
much worse i mean we're actually

3480
02:18:10,389 --> 02:18:08,719
sadistic

3481
02:18:12,790 --> 02:18:10,399
there are no other species on this

3482
02:18:14,389 --> 02:18:12,800
planet that murder their own

3483
02:18:15,830 --> 02:18:14,399
i mean maybe chimpanzees will do that

3484
02:18:18,150 --> 02:18:15,840
sometimes but we actually

3485
02:18:18,870 --> 02:18:18,160
we're really into it and we're sadistic

3486
02:18:22,070 --> 02:18:18,880
about it

3487
02:18:25,589 --> 02:18:22,080
and we torture and we steal

3488
02:18:29,349 --> 02:18:25,599
and we uh enslave and like human be

3489
02:18:32,389 --> 02:18:29,359
and we destroy like we just destroy

3490
02:18:33,349 --> 02:18:32,399
like there's no other species on this

3491
02:18:36,389 --> 02:18:33,359
planet that does

3492
02:18:37,910 --> 02:18:36,399
anything like that that we do and so

3493
02:18:39,270 --> 02:18:37,920
i don't know about these other beings

3494
02:18:40,950 --> 02:18:39,280
that are here from elsewhere maybe

3495
02:18:42,790 --> 02:18:40,960
they're just as sadistic

3496
02:18:44,870 --> 02:18:42,800
but i haven't seen the evidence that

3497
02:18:47,429 --> 02:18:44,880
they're as sadistic as we are

3498
02:18:48,230 --> 02:18:47,439
no and and and and unpleasant but

3499
02:18:51,589 --> 02:18:48,240
they're not sadistic

3500
02:18:52,709 --> 02:18:51,599
you got the best point ever um cattle

3501
02:18:55,990 --> 02:18:52,719
mutilations right

3502
02:18:56,870 --> 02:18:56,000
and and horses and things and yeah well

3503
02:18:58,629 --> 02:18:56,880
now there's

3504
02:19:00,629 --> 02:18:58,639
possibility that they you know they are

3505
02:19:03,910 --> 02:19:00,639
sadistic in that regard

3506
02:19:07,190 --> 02:19:03,920
well my point is we're upset about that

3507
02:19:08,389 --> 02:19:07,200
how can aliens do that cut out his

3508
02:19:11,110 --> 02:19:08,399
rectum

3509
02:19:12,150 --> 02:19:11,120
what laser cut the teeth out why would

3510
02:19:14,309 --> 02:19:12,160
they do

3511
02:19:15,429 --> 02:19:14,319
what are you talking about we do that

3512
02:19:18,790 --> 02:19:15,439
all day long

3513
02:19:21,990 --> 02:19:21,270
absolutely and and and much much worse

3514
02:19:25,110 --> 02:19:22,000
yes and

3515
02:19:27,030 --> 02:19:25,120
and much worse now uh before uh

3516
02:19:28,389 --> 02:19:27,040
we do run out of time i'm looking at the

3517
02:19:30,950 --> 02:19:28,399
clock um

3518
02:19:32,790 --> 02:19:30,960
just when things might have seemed like

3519
02:19:34,469 --> 02:19:32,800
they were getting a little stagnant in

3520
02:19:37,990 --> 02:19:34,479
the ufo community

3521
02:19:41,110 --> 02:19:38,000
uh we got obama right goes back on

3522
02:19:41,669 --> 02:19:41,120
uh stephen colbert and and whips all of

3523
02:19:44,870 --> 02:19:41,679
this stuff

3524
02:19:46,790 --> 02:19:44,880
out and throws everything back out in

3525
02:19:48,389 --> 02:19:46,800
into the public once oh right yeah he

3526
02:19:49,830 --> 02:19:48,399
just made a recent statement about this

3527
02:19:51,270 --> 02:19:49,840
it was quite interesting wasn't it

3528
02:19:53,110 --> 02:19:51,280
yeah did you see it have you talked

3529
02:19:56,070 --> 02:19:53,120
about this before i i just did

3530
02:19:57,990 --> 02:19:56,080
uh tonight uh did you see the clips this

3531
02:19:59,429 --> 02:19:58,000
happened on monday

3532
02:20:01,270 --> 02:19:59,439
yeah well i missed the very beginning of

3533
02:20:01,990 --> 02:20:01,280
your show tonight so i probably didn't

3534
02:20:03,349 --> 02:20:02,000
hear you talk about

3535
02:20:05,429 --> 02:20:03,359
that but yeah i mean obama was on

3536
02:20:07,670 --> 02:20:05,439
colbert and colbert is like so did you

3537
02:20:09,910 --> 02:20:07,680
get any of the ufo information and obama

3538
02:20:11,510 --> 02:20:09,920
what did he say exactly i did but i

3539
02:20:11,830 --> 02:20:11,520
can't talk about it yeah i can't tell

3540
02:20:15,910 --> 02:20:11,840
you

3541
02:20:17,510 --> 02:20:15,920
well i'm taking that as an affirmative

3542
02:20:18,870 --> 02:20:17,520
and obama's like well if that's what you

3543
02:20:21,190 --> 02:20:18,880
want to think or something like that

3544
02:20:22,630 --> 02:20:21,200
yeah yeah he's like feel free feel feel

3545
02:20:25,270 --> 02:20:22,640
free to think that way

3546
02:20:26,950 --> 02:20:25,280
and uh stephen colbert very brilliant

3547
02:20:29,590 --> 02:20:26,960
actually oh i do

3548
02:20:30,309 --> 02:20:29,600
right i am gonna i am gonna think like

3549
02:20:33,349 --> 02:20:30,319
that

3550
02:20:35,910 --> 02:20:33,359
but is is this something where

3551
02:20:37,190 --> 02:20:35,920
i know uh so many are gonna look into

3552
02:20:39,030 --> 02:20:37,200
that and go aha

3553
02:20:40,469 --> 02:20:39,040
i knew it right he knows something

3554
02:20:43,750 --> 02:20:40,479
they're doing this for a reason

3555
02:20:46,870 --> 02:20:43,760
but why would obama even

3556
02:20:49,030 --> 02:20:46,880
jokingly go and lay out a script

3557
02:20:50,630 --> 02:20:49,040
because this isn't off script right this

3558
02:20:52,950 --> 02:20:50,640
is planned

3559
02:20:54,790 --> 02:20:52,960
what's what's the intention there is

3560
02:20:58,230 --> 02:20:54,800
this a situation

3561
02:21:01,910 --> 02:20:58,240
where uh barack is suggesting that

3562
02:21:05,110 --> 02:21:01,920
yeah okay we we we know what's going on

3563
02:21:08,550 --> 02:21:07,830
yeah probably i mean we're we've moved a

3564
02:21:11,270 --> 02:21:08,560
long way

3565
02:21:12,309 --> 02:21:11,280
culturally even in the last few years

3566
02:21:14,469 --> 02:21:12,319
where

3567
02:21:17,270 --> 02:21:14,479
it's actually not a stigma to be talking

3568
02:21:19,110 --> 02:21:17,280
about ufos openly in society anymore

3569
02:21:20,630 --> 02:21:19,120
i mean it's it's a hard thing for those

3570
02:21:21,990 --> 02:21:20,640
of us who've been involved in this for a

3571
02:21:23,670 --> 02:21:22,000
long time

3572
02:21:26,950 --> 02:21:23,680
even now to wrap our brains around this

3573
02:21:30,150 --> 02:21:26,960
but there's been a fundamental cultural

3574
02:21:31,429 --> 02:21:30,160
shift that has happened in which i mean

3575
02:21:34,710 --> 02:21:31,439
look you've got the united

3576
02:21:36,710 --> 02:21:34,720
just today tim mcmillan comes out with

3577
02:21:39,830 --> 02:21:36,720
an article dealing with

3578
02:21:42,070 --> 02:21:39,840
uh this leaked

3579
02:21:43,590 --> 02:21:42,080
or i think soon to be leaked photograph

3580
02:21:46,710 --> 02:21:43,600
taken by an fa

3581
02:21:48,630 --> 02:21:46,720
uh f-18 e fighter pilot

3582
02:21:49,990 --> 02:21:48,640
in uh over the atlantic ocean of a

3583
02:21:51,510 --> 02:21:50,000
massive triangle

3584
02:21:53,030 --> 02:21:51,520
a perfect triangular craft coming out of

3585
02:21:54,950 --> 02:21:53,040
the atlantic ocean

3586
02:21:56,469 --> 02:21:54,960
and there's an like there's a lot of

3587
02:21:58,870 --> 02:21:56,479
detail in that report

3588
02:22:00,230 --> 02:21:58,880
that macmillan got out there i mean a

3589
02:22:01,830 --> 02:22:00,240
lot of this stuff was already i think

3590
02:22:05,270 --> 02:22:01,840
known to ufo researchers

3591
02:22:06,550 --> 02:22:05,280
some of it wasn't uh but all of it was

3592
02:22:08,710 --> 02:22:06,560
was packaged in a way that's quite

3593
02:22:11,830 --> 02:22:08,720
powerful i mean we have

3594
02:22:15,670 --> 02:22:11,840
here in this story discussion of

3595
02:22:18,389 --> 02:22:15,680
top generals uh stating i mean

3596
02:22:19,990 --> 02:22:18,399
openly like the tic tac ufo like no way

3597
02:22:21,429 --> 02:22:20,000
was that black budget no way like we're

3598
02:22:24,309 --> 02:22:21,439
not even close

3599
02:22:24,630 --> 02:22:24,319
um i think davis was or and put off or

3600
02:22:27,349 --> 02:22:24,640
uh

3601
02:22:29,270 --> 02:22:27,359
included in this article and i just

3602
02:22:29,750 --> 02:22:29,280
think like we've gotten to a point where

3603
02:22:33,670 --> 02:22:29,760
we are

3604
02:22:35,349 --> 02:22:33,680
on the cusp of

3605
02:22:37,190 --> 02:22:35,359
something even more than where we're at

3606
02:22:38,309 --> 02:22:37,200
like i i was thinking earlier this year

3607
02:22:40,150 --> 02:22:38,319
that this could just

3608
02:22:42,790 --> 02:22:40,160
hit a big red stop sign and not go any

3609
02:22:44,630 --> 02:22:42,800
further and by any further meaning

3610
02:22:47,110 --> 02:22:44,640
no discussion of crash retrievals of

3611
02:22:49,750 --> 02:22:47,120
ufos because that's the big next step

3612
02:22:50,950 --> 02:22:49,760
that's where you have to go um otherwise

3613
02:22:52,150 --> 02:22:50,960
we're still at the well we don't know

3614
02:22:53,510 --> 02:22:52,160
what they are phase

3615
02:22:55,110 --> 02:22:53,520
which is what they're still dancing

3616
02:22:56,389 --> 02:22:55,120
around and macmillan's piece was no

3617
02:22:59,349 --> 02:22:56,399
different there he's

3618
02:23:00,309 --> 02:22:59,359
you could tell he was inching toward

3619
02:23:03,270 --> 02:23:00,319
like

3620
02:23:03,590 --> 02:23:03,280
you know the uh the uap task force was

3621
02:23:06,790 --> 02:23:03,600
was

3622
02:23:09,190 --> 02:23:06,800
openly speculating that these uh

3623
02:23:10,469 --> 02:23:09,200
uap were extraterrestrial and alien like

3624
02:23:12,950 --> 02:23:10,479
and he mentions that

3625
02:23:15,270 --> 02:23:12,960
like that's very interesting but there

3626
02:23:18,309 --> 02:23:15,280
they haven't taken that final step

3627
02:23:19,270 --> 02:23:18,319
that final step is we've got a flying

3628
02:23:22,389 --> 02:23:19,280
saucer

3629
02:23:24,389 --> 02:23:22,399
where's trying to study that thing uh

3630
02:23:26,070 --> 02:23:24,399
and then when you get to that point it

3631
02:23:27,349 --> 02:23:26,080
becomes impossible to deny

3632
02:23:29,590 --> 02:23:27,359
that you've been lying to the public for

3633
02:23:32,389 --> 02:23:29,600
70 whatever years

3634
02:23:33,349 --> 02:23:32,399
did you talk did you reach out not only

3635
02:23:36,630 --> 02:23:33,359
to tim

3636
02:23:40,309 --> 02:23:36,640
but i know bob mcguire uh uh

3637
02:23:43,270 --> 02:23:40,319
has publicly stated i believe

3638
02:23:44,070 --> 02:23:43,280
he says he's seen the photograph yes bob

3639
02:23:45,670 --> 02:23:44,080
is a friend of mine

3640
02:23:47,990 --> 02:23:45,680
he's a friend of mine he's a friend of

3641
02:23:49,510 --> 02:23:48,000
ours i should say yeah so

3642
02:23:51,830 --> 02:23:49,520
i haven't talked to tim about this but

3643
02:23:55,429 --> 02:23:51,840
i've talked to bob you talked to bob

3644
02:23:59,270 --> 02:23:55,439
i was gonna call bob today um but uh

3645
02:24:01,270 --> 02:23:59,280
okay what has bob actually seen this

3646
02:24:03,990 --> 02:24:01,280
photograph

3647
02:24:04,469 --> 02:24:04,000
well he said he did well you called him

3648
02:24:07,510 --> 02:24:04,479
i mean

3649
02:24:10,870 --> 02:24:07,520
did you guys talk about it

3650
02:24:12,070 --> 02:24:10,880
uh we we messaged you okay so we had a

3651
02:24:15,349 --> 02:24:12,080
little back and forth

3652
02:24:18,630 --> 02:24:15,359
was it right uh i didn't

3653
02:24:21,270 --> 02:24:18,640
i didn't care to press at that time

3654
02:24:21,830 --> 02:24:21,280
for details do you know what he's

3655
02:24:29,429 --> 02:24:21,840
listening

3656
02:24:32,070 --> 02:24:29,439
right sure yeah bob hey bob bob

3657
02:24:32,950 --> 02:24:32,080
call into the show bob bob has had i

3658
02:24:34,950 --> 02:24:32,960
mean he's had a

3659
02:24:36,550 --> 02:24:34,960
very remarkable career and he's a very

3660
02:24:38,630 --> 02:24:36,560
brilliant man yes

3661
02:24:41,110 --> 02:24:38,640
he's got deep deep knowledge of the

3662
02:24:41,590 --> 02:24:41,120
science behind a lot of this phenomenon

3663
02:24:42,950 --> 02:24:41,600
and i

3664
02:24:45,670 --> 02:24:42,960
very much respect what he has to say

3665
02:24:47,429 --> 02:24:45,680
about this um

3666
02:24:49,110 --> 02:24:47,439
so yeah i mean and i will just say i

3667
02:24:51,110 --> 02:24:49,120
have it on another

3668
02:24:53,190 --> 02:24:51,120
inside source and i'll say that that

3669
02:24:55,429 --> 02:24:53,200
this photograph is likely to be leaked

3670
02:24:57,349 --> 02:24:55,439
pretty soon i mean what we have now is a

3671
02:25:00,309 --> 02:24:57,359
pretty neat artistic rendition of it

3672
02:25:01,110 --> 02:25:00,319
looks cool it's in mcmillan's article uh

3673
02:25:02,870 --> 02:25:01,120
but i think

3674
02:25:04,469 --> 02:25:02,880
i had a conversation i will just say

3675
02:25:05,190 --> 02:25:04,479
this now with james fox a couple of

3676
02:25:07,510 --> 02:25:05,200
weeks ago

3677
02:25:10,070 --> 02:25:07,520
before this came out james knew about it

3678
02:25:13,110 --> 02:25:10,080
uh he was in good position

3679
02:25:14,469 --> 02:25:13,120
and he didn't he didn't have a lot of

3680
02:25:15,510 --> 02:25:14,479
detail or at least he didn't tell me a

3681
02:25:16,790 --> 02:25:15,520
lot of detail maybe

3682
02:25:19,670 --> 02:25:16,800
he didn't want to tell me or maybe he

3683
02:25:21,590 --> 02:25:19,680
didn't know that's okay

3684
02:25:22,870 --> 02:25:21,600
but i i have to admit like i was

3685
02:25:24,790 --> 02:25:22,880
surprised by

3686
02:25:27,110 --> 02:25:24,800
how much was able to come out in this

3687
02:25:28,469 --> 02:25:27,120
article because i was i had this feeling

3688
02:25:29,830 --> 02:25:28,479
like the photograph would come out like

3689
02:25:31,750 --> 02:25:29,840
an orphan like no one

3690
02:25:33,510 --> 02:25:31,760
would claim it and it would have no

3691
02:25:35,110 --> 02:25:33,520
provenance and you just have the

3692
02:25:37,030 --> 02:25:35,120
skeptics arguing about it like they

3693
02:25:38,950 --> 02:25:37,040
argue about the thomas wilson document

3694
02:25:40,950 --> 02:25:38,960
which i'm going to say to you again i

3695
02:25:41,750 --> 02:25:40,960
know is legit i know israel but we can

3696
02:25:43,830 --> 02:25:41,760
move on

3697
02:25:45,429 --> 02:25:43,840
but you know if something that obvious

3698
02:25:47,750 --> 02:25:45,439
doesn't convince a bunch of skeptics

3699
02:25:49,270 --> 02:25:47,760
then i thought no orphan photograph is

3700
02:25:51,030 --> 02:25:49,280
going to either

3701
02:25:52,550 --> 02:25:51,040
like where where was it from what year

3702
02:25:53,750 --> 02:25:52,560
was it taken

3703
02:25:55,110 --> 02:25:53,760
like i didn't know if there were any

3704
02:25:56,630 --> 02:25:55,120
answers to that but it turns out there

3705
02:25:59,830 --> 02:25:56,640
are answers to that

3706
02:26:02,070 --> 02:25:59,840
and it turns out that this is

3707
02:26:03,270 --> 02:26:02,080
apparently a genuine us air force event

3708
02:26:07,270 --> 02:26:03,280
here

3709
02:26:08,710 --> 02:26:07,280
and this is a triangle leaving the ocean

3710
02:26:11,510 --> 02:26:08,720
going into the atmosphere now look we've

3711
02:26:14,870 --> 02:26:11,520
had these reports of this type for

3712
02:26:16,630 --> 02:26:14,880
generations ufo researchers have known

3713
02:26:19,429 --> 02:26:16,640
that this is the real deal

3714
02:26:20,150 --> 02:26:19,439
but to get it at this level of an

3715
02:26:24,389 --> 02:26:20,160
admission

3716
02:26:25,830 --> 02:26:24,399
that that's very important so um

3717
02:26:27,910 --> 02:26:25,840
you know i'm waiting to see where this

3718
02:26:31,190 --> 02:26:27,920
goes and we are

3719
02:26:33,270 --> 02:26:31,200
this close to getting to an

3720
02:26:34,630 --> 02:26:33,280
a point where we have an acknowledgment

3721
02:26:36,630 --> 02:26:34,640
of crash retrievals

3722
02:26:38,150 --> 02:26:36,640
we're not there yet the new york times

3723
02:26:40,790 --> 02:26:38,160
played around it in in

3724
02:26:41,670 --> 02:26:40,800
leslie ralph's article last july where

3725
02:26:44,630 --> 02:26:41,680
they talked

3726
02:26:45,510 --> 02:26:44,640
a little bit about it uh but they gave

3727
02:26:48,550 --> 02:26:45,520
enough

3728
02:26:49,030 --> 02:26:48,560
deniability that the military could you

3729
02:26:51,510 --> 02:26:49,040
know

3730
02:26:52,790 --> 02:26:51,520
walk away from it but we're really

3731
02:26:55,590 --> 02:26:52,800
inching toward it and

3732
02:26:57,830 --> 02:26:55,600
i think once we get to a point of um

3733
02:27:00,309 --> 02:26:57,840
acknowledging openly acknowledging uap

3734
02:27:01,750 --> 02:27:00,319
ufo crash retrievals it's going to be

3735
02:27:04,389 --> 02:27:01,760
very difficult

3736
02:27:06,550 --> 02:27:04,399
to stop a real avalanche effect this is

3737
02:27:07,670 --> 02:27:06,560
what bryce zabel and i wrote about 10

3738
02:27:10,389 --> 02:27:07,680
years ago

3739
02:27:11,190 --> 02:27:10,399
when we wrote after disclosure the idea

3740
02:27:14,150 --> 02:27:11,200
that we had

3741
02:27:15,429 --> 02:27:14,160
that at that time was a major event or a

3742
02:27:17,110 --> 02:27:15,439
major leak would happen

3743
02:27:19,670 --> 02:27:17,120
that would cause an avalanche effect

3744
02:27:20,950 --> 02:27:19,680
like one leak coming out after another

3745
02:27:22,230 --> 02:27:20,960
another and another and another and the

3746
02:27:23,590 --> 02:27:22,240
next thing you know like the whole apple

3747
02:27:27,270 --> 02:27:23,600
cart's turned over

3748
02:27:29,830 --> 02:27:27,280
and what has happened so far is

3749
02:27:31,270 --> 02:27:29,840
that has not happened we've had some

3750
02:27:33,510 --> 02:27:31,280
significant

3751
02:27:35,510 --> 02:27:33,520
new admissions and yet no avalanche

3752
02:27:37,429 --> 02:27:35,520
effect and i keep asking myself what

3753
02:27:40,230 --> 02:27:37,439
will get us there and i

3754
02:27:41,270 --> 02:27:40,240
think at this point it would be hard to

3755
02:27:42,950 --> 02:27:41,280
back away

3756
02:27:44,950 --> 02:27:42,960
from an open acknowledgement of ufo

3757
02:27:46,469 --> 02:27:44,960
crash retrievals and the study of that

3758
02:27:48,230 --> 02:27:46,479
technology

3759
02:27:49,590 --> 02:27:48,240
because that is an open admission of a

3760
02:27:52,710 --> 02:27:49,600
cover-up there's no doubt

3761
02:27:54,070 --> 02:27:52,720
and when i looked at the the

3762
02:27:56,870 --> 02:27:54,080
illustration

3763
02:27:58,870 --> 02:27:56,880
and i'm picturing myself if there is a

3764
02:28:02,150 --> 02:27:58,880
vetted verifiable

3765
02:28:05,110 --> 02:28:02,160
authentic case closed photograph

3766
02:28:06,790 --> 02:28:05,120
of what is being portrayed here right

3767
02:28:07,670 --> 02:28:06,800
there's some splaining that has to be

3768
02:28:10,150 --> 02:28:07,680
done

3769
02:28:11,429 --> 02:28:10,160
oh absolutely because i mean this isn't

3770
02:28:14,309 --> 02:28:11,439
the tic tac ufo

3771
02:28:14,630 --> 02:28:14,319
said that this is this is taking things

3772
02:28:19,590 --> 02:28:14,640
uh

3773
02:28:22,550 --> 02:28:19,600
well i don't know if i would agree with

3774
02:28:24,550 --> 02:28:22,560
you there uh the tic tac ufo is 2004

3775
02:28:26,469 --> 02:28:24,560
and has instant acceleration to multiple

3776
02:28:27,750 --> 02:28:26,479
thousands of miles per hour we have no

3777
02:28:30,150 --> 02:28:27,760
idea how to do that

3778
02:28:31,550 --> 02:28:30,160
there's no science but that doesn't

3779
02:28:33,910 --> 02:28:31,560
happen

3780
02:28:35,510 --> 02:28:33,920
hypothesizes and he may be right but we

3781
02:28:37,670 --> 02:28:35,520
don't we don't have

3782
02:28:38,950 --> 02:28:37,680
any empirical and material science like

3783
02:28:41,110 --> 02:28:38,960
we don't know how to do that

3784
02:28:43,349 --> 02:28:41,120
yeah but what i'm suggesting here is

3785
02:28:45,110 --> 02:28:43,359
what's in the tic tac video

3786
02:28:46,469 --> 02:28:45,120
is not that acceleration that you're

3787
02:28:48,230 --> 02:28:46,479
referring to that is no

3788
02:28:50,150 --> 02:28:48,240
i'm talking about fragrance story right

3789
02:28:52,309 --> 02:28:50,160
favorite story exactly exactly

3790
02:28:53,670 --> 02:28:52,319
but what's in this image and his

3791
02:28:56,389 --> 02:28:53,680
co-pilots and colleagues

3792
02:28:57,190 --> 02:28:56,399
right but what's in this image this is a

3793
02:28:59,830 --> 02:28:57,200
whole

3794
02:29:01,910 --> 02:28:59,840
now like i said yeah and that's right

3795
02:29:04,150 --> 02:29:01,920
and the fact that it's trans uh

3796
02:29:05,590 --> 02:29:04,160
trans medium so from water to to

3797
02:29:09,030 --> 02:29:05,600
atmosphere that's right

3798
02:29:11,030 --> 02:29:09,040
and and we don't we don't have knowledge

3799
02:29:12,870 --> 02:29:11,040
of how to do that

3800
02:29:14,870 --> 02:29:12,880
now the tic tac was also that way the

3801
02:29:15,990 --> 02:29:14,880
tic tac at least we believe or at least

3802
02:29:18,150 --> 02:29:16,000
it seems that

3803
02:29:19,830 --> 02:29:18,160
it was either on the water or possibly

3804
02:29:21,910 --> 02:29:19,840
under the water and then it came out

3805
02:29:23,190 --> 02:29:21,920
but with this triangular ufo that we're

3806
02:29:26,870 --> 02:29:23,200
hearing about now this is just

3807
02:29:27,510 --> 02:29:26,880
2019 allegedly right uh comes out of the

3808
02:29:31,510 --> 02:29:27,520
water and

3809
02:29:33,750 --> 02:29:31,520
zooms off you know to um

3810
02:29:34,870 --> 02:29:33,760
and it's this perfect beautiful triangle

3811
02:29:37,030 --> 02:29:34,880
now is uh

3812
02:29:38,309 --> 02:29:37,040
before i let you go what do you know

3813
02:29:41,830 --> 02:29:38,319
about the image

3814
02:29:45,110 --> 02:29:41,840
is the image a still from a video

3815
02:29:47,510 --> 02:29:45,120
or is it just a digital

3816
02:29:48,550 --> 02:29:47,520
uh image a photograph well i i don't

3817
02:29:50,469 --> 02:29:48,560
know i mean i'm not

3818
02:29:52,710 --> 02:29:50,479
the expert here but my understanding is

3819
02:29:54,230 --> 02:29:52,720
that it's a photograph right

3820
02:29:56,630 --> 02:29:54,240
and in fact that was one reason i was a

3821
02:29:58,309 --> 02:29:56,640
bit skeptical that it would really have

3822
02:30:00,070 --> 02:29:58,319
any ability to move the needle in any

3823
02:30:02,070 --> 02:30:00,080
way i thought right picture like

3824
02:30:03,349 --> 02:30:02,080
i don't care how good the picture looks

3825
02:30:04,870 --> 02:30:03,359
uh i don't think that's going to

3826
02:30:07,190 --> 02:30:04,880
convince people

3827
02:30:07,910 --> 02:30:07,200
but if it's a really great of was always

3828
02:30:10,389 --> 02:30:07,920
told off

3829
02:30:11,910 --> 02:30:10,399
all this time it was an amazing picture

3830
02:30:13,830 --> 02:30:11,920
and that's what macmillan writes in his

3831
02:30:17,190 --> 02:30:13,840
article it's an amazing picture

3832
02:30:20,710 --> 02:30:17,200
um and if it has a

3833
02:30:23,590 --> 02:30:20,720
if a provenance of some sort and a date

3834
02:30:24,070 --> 02:30:23,600
and a place like that does give it some

3835
02:30:26,630 --> 02:30:24,080
power

3836
02:30:28,469 --> 02:30:26,640
that that can give it an ability to get

3837
02:30:31,110 --> 02:30:28,479
people maybe to take it seriously

3838
02:30:33,110 --> 02:30:31,120
if it's a military image right you see

3839
02:30:36,230 --> 02:30:33,120
the the the pilot comes forward

3840
02:30:39,670 --> 02:30:36,240
yes this is it i i took the yeah if that

3841
02:30:41,190 --> 02:30:39,680
that this is different

3842
02:30:43,750 --> 02:30:41,200
than from you know having that kind of

3843
02:30:43,990 --> 02:30:43,760
provenance that this isn't third phase

3844
02:30:47,830 --> 02:30:44,000
of

3845
02:30:48,870 --> 02:30:47,840
moon right there's a whole nother

3846
02:30:52,230 --> 02:30:48,880
situation

3847
02:30:54,230 --> 02:30:52,240
intrigued i'm very intrigued i

3848
02:30:55,590 --> 02:30:54,240
i want to know what bob has to say i

3849
02:30:58,950 --> 02:30:55,600
want to know uh

3850
02:31:00,950 --> 02:30:58,960
did did tim mcmillan did he i know he

3851
02:31:03,750 --> 02:31:00,960
i read his article it was great did he

3852
02:31:05,830 --> 02:31:03,760
see it or is he just

3853
02:31:07,270 --> 02:31:05,840
reporting the story i don't know

3854
02:31:09,349 --> 02:31:07,280
actually that's a good question

3855
02:31:13,110 --> 02:31:09,359
right right because i've read the

3856
02:31:15,590 --> 02:31:13,120
article a couple of times today

3857
02:31:16,710 --> 02:31:15,600
and actually i don't know if he made

3858
02:31:19,429 --> 02:31:16,720
that statement

3859
02:31:19,910 --> 02:31:19,439
no he saw the photograph right he may

3860
02:31:21,670 --> 02:31:19,920
not have

3861
02:31:23,990 --> 02:31:21,680
it was bob that jumped in and said hey

3862
02:31:25,429 --> 02:31:24,000
hey i've seen the image that tim is

3863
02:31:27,190 --> 02:31:25,439
talking about

3864
02:31:28,710 --> 02:31:27,200
yeah it's interesting because that image

3865
02:31:30,150 --> 02:31:28,720
i mean the way it was written about is

3866
02:31:32,309 --> 02:31:30,160
that it was passed around

3867
02:31:34,230 --> 02:31:32,319
in some classified circles you know i

3868
02:31:37,510 --> 02:31:34,240
mean this was hot stuff

3869
02:31:39,110 --> 02:31:37,520
um and so it was all seen by people with

3870
02:31:40,950 --> 02:31:39,120
clearances

3871
02:31:42,150 --> 02:31:40,960
man thank you so much richard what a

3872
02:31:44,469 --> 02:31:42,160
great night tonight

3873
02:31:45,349 --> 02:31:44,479
uh thank you so much when am i gonna see

3874
02:31:47,990 --> 02:31:45,359
you again

3875
02:31:48,710 --> 02:31:48,000
what is 2021 playing out to be what's

3876
02:31:51,349 --> 02:31:48,720
going on well

3877
02:31:52,630 --> 02:31:51,359
we will figure it out don't know yet we

3878
02:31:53,270 --> 02:31:52,640
will figure it out you know i look

3879
02:31:54,870 --> 02:31:53,280
forward to

3880
02:31:56,550 --> 02:31:54,880
that's lame next time we get together

3881
02:31:59,030 --> 02:31:56,560
that's lame

3882
02:32:01,030 --> 02:31:59,040
richard thank you so much listen man be

3883
02:32:01,910 --> 02:32:01,040
safe much success on the book i know

3884
02:32:04,150 --> 02:32:01,920
that it's uh

3885
02:32:06,389 --> 02:32:04,160
it's number one as it should be on

3886
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uh i highly highly recommend this and

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approach

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these subjects this is the book it's all

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right there for you thank you so much

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richard give our best to tracy

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and enjoy the rest of your week man

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thank you so much thank you so much

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jimmy thanks to all the listeners

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great being on with you you're the best

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richard bleepin

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dolan all right i'm gonna take a quick

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break right here and uh

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i'm gonna come back i'll open up the

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two zero five one lots to talk about

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tonight thank you so much richard

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and i'll be right back this is fade to

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

4021
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jimmy church on the game changer network

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and kg r a the planet

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that's an unbelievably great

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02:37:59,349 --> 02:37:58,000
conversation with richard dolan you know

4025
02:38:01,670 --> 02:37:59,359
this is it

4026
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every time richard is on the show it's

4027
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the same thing it just gets elevated to

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another level um just a an amazing

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conversation

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and i um uh years ago i made this

4031
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comment

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uh to richard um and and i had said look

4033
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richard goes on a show doesn't he you

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know

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for the first time let's say and he's

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he's being interviewed by somebody for

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the first time

4038
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and they go through the same questions

4039
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and you know

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it's you know it's just it's right there

4041
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and

4042
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maybe there isn't never a second show

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right and there isn't a third show but

4044
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richard and i

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we got all of that stuff out the

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formalities

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we got all of that out of the way uh uh

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almost eight years ago

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and we don't have to visit all of those

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subjects

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we are able to uh

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go to the next level with the

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conversation

4054
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and and it's it's a level of trust um

4055
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that that goes both ways and we are able

4056
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to do that

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and this audience you guys out there you

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get to

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enjoy that that's a real honest

4060
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conversation uh about real subjects from

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from two people that trust each other

4062
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and that's great and for me

4063
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it's just an enjoyable experience

4064
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because i'm able to learn

4065
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right i'm just i'm we're just going into

4066
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those zones

4067
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absolutely uh incredible show um so

4068
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uh the links are are right there you can

4069
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go over to amazon and get the book i'm

4070
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excited about the audiobook

4071
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um but uh the book is fantastic i'm i'm

4072
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letting you know right now

4073
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there's one thing when you get the book

4074
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i want you to remember

4075
02:39:52,550 --> 02:39:51,120
what i had mentioned to richard uh

4076
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earlier in the show

4077
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and that is when you get the book just

4078
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go through

4079
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the table of contents and just look at

4080
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how it's all laid out

4081
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i think there's five chapters and and

4082
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maybe six five but just look how it lays

4083
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out

4084
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all the way down and then go and read

4085
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the book and you'll understand

4086
02:40:20,550 --> 02:40:16,319
uh my point i am sure that that was

4087
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a fun book to write and it's very smooth

4088
02:40:25,429 --> 02:40:24,160
it's very very smooth richard said one

4089
02:40:25,910 --> 02:40:25,439
thing and i'm going to get the phone

4090
02:40:28,150 --> 02:40:25,920
calls

4091
02:40:29,110 --> 02:40:28,160
in just a second uh richard said one

4092
02:40:32,830 --> 02:40:29,120
thing you know

4093
02:40:34,630 --> 02:40:32,840
man i i was able to uh get a sense of

4094
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release and relief

4095
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to finally you know write about these

4096
02:40:41,429 --> 02:40:38,000
subjects that i've never really

4097
02:40:42,710 --> 02:40:41,439
concentrated on before and and there you

4098
02:40:45,830 --> 02:40:42,720
go so now it's out

4099
02:40:48,150 --> 02:40:45,840
and and there's a an amount of relief

4100
02:40:49,590 --> 02:40:48,160
there and you can feel it you can feel

4101
02:40:52,150 --> 02:40:49,600
it in the book it's uh

4102
02:40:53,750 --> 02:40:52,160
really really excellent so go and get it

4103
02:40:55,670 --> 02:40:53,760
and uh with that i'm your host jimmy

4104
02:40:57,429 --> 02:40:55,680
church thank you richard dolan

4105
02:40:59,269 --> 02:40:57,439
and uh let's go to the phones let's see

4106
02:41:01,590 --> 02:40:59,279
who's up first hi you're live on fade to

4107
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black who's calling

4108
02:41:05,510 --> 02:41:03,840
it's carrie in palm springs jimmy hey

4109
02:41:07,750 --> 02:41:05,520
carrie in palm springs what'd you think

4110
02:41:10,389 --> 02:41:07,760
of that conversation

4111
02:41:12,469 --> 02:41:10,399
wow what an excellent show tonight thank

4112
02:41:15,750 --> 02:41:12,479
you so much for having mr dolan

4113
02:41:16,630 --> 02:41:15,760
on you two have a great rhythm you know

4114
02:41:18,230 --> 02:41:16,640
when you two

4115
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talk and it's just it's more like a

4116
02:41:23,349 --> 02:41:20,319
conversation than an interview and it's

4117
02:41:25,990 --> 02:41:23,359
it's just so great for you know

4118
02:41:28,150 --> 02:41:26,000
us as your listening audience to really

4119
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benefit from your relationship with

4120
02:41:31,590 --> 02:41:30,720
with richard so thank you so much yeah

4121
02:41:33,750 --> 02:41:31,600
bob but the

4122
02:41:34,790 --> 02:41:33,760
the the pleasure is all mine that's a

4123
02:41:36,469 --> 02:41:34,800
lot of fun to

4124
02:41:39,269 --> 02:41:36,479
to have richard on the show what what

4125
02:41:41,110 --> 02:41:39,279
stood out for you

4126
02:41:42,790 --> 02:41:41,120
well you know i think you know the

4127
02:41:45,429 --> 02:41:42,800
number one question is a

4128
02:41:47,750 --> 02:41:45,439
are they here are they real do we have

4129
02:41:49,670 --> 02:41:47,760
aliens the answer of course is yes

4130
02:41:51,670 --> 02:41:49,680
but then the second most immediate

4131
02:41:53,269 --> 02:41:51,680
question is what is their agenda why are

4132
02:41:54,230 --> 02:41:53,279
they here and i think it's brilliant

4133
02:41:57,510 --> 02:41:54,240
that he wrote a book

4134
02:41:57,990 --> 02:41:57,520
you know you know bringing that actual

4135
02:42:00,550 --> 02:41:58,000
question

4136
02:42:01,429 --> 02:42:00,560
to light not if they're here wherever

4137
02:42:04,550 --> 02:42:01,439
they you know

4138
02:42:05,510 --> 02:42:04,560
lala they're here why are they here what

4139
02:42:07,670 --> 02:42:05,520
are they doing

4140
02:42:08,950 --> 02:42:07,680
and you know you can extrapolate from

4141
02:42:13,110 --> 02:42:08,960
all the different you know

4142
02:42:16,469 --> 02:42:13,120
stories and documented experiences and

4143
02:42:19,110 --> 02:42:16,479
sightings and abductions but you know

4144
02:42:19,830 --> 02:42:19,120
and there may be different races there

4145
02:42:22,630 --> 02:42:19,840
may be

4146
02:42:24,710 --> 02:42:22,640
you know different aliens you know there

4147
02:42:26,790 --> 02:42:24,720
who knows but i think that's such a

4148
02:42:27,830 --> 02:42:26,800
you know that is really a deep the

4149
02:42:29,990 --> 02:42:27,840
deeper question

4150
02:42:31,030 --> 02:42:30,000
now it's becoming more of the fro

4151
02:42:34,230 --> 02:42:31,040
forefront

4152
02:42:37,349 --> 02:42:34,240
not are they here are they real

4153
02:42:40,150 --> 02:42:37,359
okay let's establish that that's known

4154
02:42:41,510 --> 02:42:40,160
that's almost fact at this point it's

4155
02:42:43,389 --> 02:42:41,520
what are they doing what

4156
02:42:44,950 --> 02:42:43,399
do you know are we ever going to have

4157
02:42:47,990 --> 02:42:44,960
communication that's

4158
02:42:51,030 --> 02:42:48,000
you know broadly known are they just

4159
02:42:56,790 --> 02:42:51,040
observing us are they intervening and

4160
02:43:01,590 --> 02:42:59,349
that's right and so you know from my

4161
02:43:05,990 --> 02:43:01,600
experience that i experienced in

4162
02:43:06,389 --> 02:43:06,000
los angeles in 1979 as a nine-year-old

4163
02:43:09,750 --> 02:43:06,399
kid

4164
02:43:12,710 --> 02:43:09,760
seeing an incredible uh sighting

4165
02:43:14,950 --> 02:43:12,720
as it was my intuition at that age

4166
02:43:18,070 --> 02:43:14,960
they're here to explore

4167
02:43:19,269 --> 02:43:18,080
to find out more about us they're

4168
02:43:22,309 --> 02:43:19,279
interested

4169
02:43:25,110 --> 02:43:22,319
they you know they

4170
02:43:27,030 --> 02:43:25,120
they're doing it under guys you know

4171
02:43:30,309 --> 02:43:27,040
they don't want to disrupt

4172
02:43:33,990 --> 02:43:30,319
at least at that point in 1979

4173
02:43:37,110 --> 02:43:34,000
but they they

4174
02:43:38,950 --> 02:43:37,120
are very interested and they have a deep

4175
02:43:43,030 --> 02:43:38,960
interest somehow

4176
02:43:45,190 --> 02:43:43,040
in our military and uh

4177
02:43:47,110 --> 02:43:45,200
you know deciding if i was on the fourth

4178
02:43:47,990 --> 02:43:47,120
of july was that an accident was that a

4179
02:43:50,070 --> 02:43:48,000
coincidence

4180
02:43:51,110 --> 02:43:50,080
i don't know you know were they making a

4181
02:43:53,990 --> 02:43:51,120
statement by that

4182
02:43:54,550 --> 02:43:54,000
sighting that was pretty big um i don't

4183
02:43:57,990 --> 02:43:54,560
know

4184
02:43:58,469 --> 02:43:58,000
but i think that there's some sort of

4185
02:44:01,349 --> 02:43:58,479
link

4186
02:44:02,389 --> 02:44:01,359
where these you know navy fighters are

4187
02:44:05,429 --> 02:44:02,399
seeing

4188
02:44:07,349 --> 02:44:05,439
you know multiple sightings this alleged

4189
02:44:08,309 --> 02:44:07,359
new picture that's going to be coming

4190
02:44:11,750 --> 02:44:08,319
out

4191
02:44:14,150 --> 02:44:11,760
um you know there's once again over and

4192
02:44:18,070 --> 02:44:14,160
over there's this military

4193
02:44:20,150 --> 02:44:18,080
link and um and what's the agenda there

4194
02:44:22,150 --> 02:44:20,160
um when they fly over our nukes and they

4195
02:44:24,230 --> 02:44:22,160
shut everything down

4196
02:44:26,230 --> 02:44:24,240
you know so i don't know i think that

4197
02:44:30,150 --> 02:44:26,240
this is the new probing question

4198
02:44:32,550 --> 02:44:30,160
what is the agenda and how can we

4199
02:44:33,990 --> 02:44:32,560
bridge contact with them and and

4200
02:44:38,070 --> 02:44:34,000
communication

4201
02:44:40,469 --> 02:44:38,080
and then from the agenda must go greater

4202
02:44:42,469 --> 02:44:40,479
contact connection communication and i

4203
02:44:44,550 --> 02:44:42,479
think that's

4204
02:44:45,510 --> 02:44:44,560
that's that we'll find out the agenda

4205
02:44:48,070 --> 02:44:45,520
once we start

4206
02:44:50,070 --> 02:44:48,080
open communication whenever that is yeah

4207
02:44:53,750 --> 02:44:50,080
you're really going to enjoy this book

4208
02:44:54,550 --> 02:44:53,760
and i i didn't want to get into the

4209
02:44:56,710 --> 02:44:54,560
subject of

4210
02:44:58,309 --> 02:44:56,720
what the agendas are that's for the

4211
02:45:00,960 --> 02:44:58,319
reader to go and

4212
02:45:00,960 --> 02:45:00,970
check the book i

4213
02:45:06,309 --> 02:45:03,750
[Music]

4214
02:45:07,429 --> 02:45:06,319
it's plural you're right you know this

4215
02:45:10,550 --> 02:45:07,439
isn't just from

4216
02:45:12,469 --> 02:45:10,560
one mindset and uh it's very complete

4217
02:45:14,790 --> 02:45:12,479
and you know coming from richard to have

4218
02:45:17,670 --> 02:45:14,800
him uh ponder

4219
02:45:19,429 --> 02:45:17,680
these very important questions and and

4220
02:45:19,750 --> 02:45:19,439
able to present it like he does in this

4221
02:45:22,070 --> 02:45:19,760
book

4222
02:45:23,750 --> 02:45:22,080
it's great i mean he's just a great

4223
02:45:27,670 --> 02:45:23,760
writer he's a great mind

4224
02:45:31,190 --> 02:45:27,680
but this is uh easily digestible

4225
02:45:33,510 --> 02:45:31,200
um i i read it quickly and i enjoyed it

4226
02:45:34,309 --> 02:45:33,520
and there you go so go and get it and uh

4227
02:45:38,790 --> 02:45:34,319
let me know

4228
02:45:40,870 --> 02:45:38,800
so much

4229
02:45:43,030 --> 02:45:40,880
have a good one you too thank you thank

4230
02:45:46,070 --> 02:45:43,040
you so much

4231
02:45:49,429 --> 02:45:46,080
thank thank you and uh carrie

4232
02:45:51,830 --> 02:45:49,439
uh uh brings up a really really really

4233
02:45:52,550 --> 02:45:51,840
really really good point and that is

4234
02:45:56,710 --> 02:45:52,560
this

4235
02:45:59,910 --> 02:45:56,720
you know as far as what an agenda may be

4236
02:46:02,309 --> 02:45:59,920
um and looking at where we are with our

4237
02:46:03,269 --> 02:46:02,319
military let me just let me tell you

4238
02:46:06,870 --> 02:46:03,279
something

4239
02:46:10,630 --> 02:46:06,880
i don't know if et

4240
02:46:14,230 --> 02:46:10,640
wants us humans us earthlings

4241
02:46:17,429 --> 02:46:14,240
unleashed into our solar system in

4242
02:46:21,269 --> 02:46:17,439
interstellar space with like

4243
02:46:25,349 --> 02:46:21,279
photon cannons and nuclear weapons

4244
02:46:28,230 --> 02:46:25,359
i know that at this stage of the game

4245
02:46:29,429 --> 02:46:28,240
that's not a good idea so absolutely

4246
02:46:33,030 --> 02:46:29,439
they are interested

4247
02:46:36,870 --> 02:46:33,040
in where we are on on the progress of

4248
02:46:40,630 --> 02:46:36,880
uh being able to uh have a

4249
02:46:41,750 --> 02:46:40,640
futuristic crazy offensive weapons let's

4250
02:46:43,190 --> 02:46:41,760
go back to the phones

4251
02:46:45,110 --> 02:46:43,200
hi you're live on fade to black who's

4252
02:46:47,269 --> 02:46:45,120
calling

4253
02:46:50,469 --> 02:46:47,279
hey jimmy this is nathan in ohio hi

4254
02:46:53,670 --> 02:46:50,479
nathan what's going on man

4255
02:46:55,110 --> 02:46:53,680
yeah i really just wanted to say uh echo

4256
02:46:57,590 --> 02:46:55,120
what she was saying it was a great

4257
02:46:59,750 --> 02:46:57,600
interview with richard uh it was a good

4258
02:47:00,630 --> 02:46:59,760
i i really do think i'm gonna try to

4259
02:47:03,670 --> 02:47:00,640
read this one

4260
02:47:07,590 --> 02:47:03,680
and uh but i

4261
02:47:11,830 --> 02:47:07,600
also uh i i

4262
02:47:16,630 --> 02:47:11,840
richard's like my favorite researcher

4263
02:47:18,550 --> 02:47:16,640
type anyway he's always been very

4264
02:47:19,750 --> 02:47:18,560
i know this is a different subject than

4265
02:47:23,030 --> 02:47:19,760
his normal subject

4266
02:47:24,150 --> 02:47:23,040
sort of well he's a historian he's a

4267
02:47:27,030 --> 02:47:24,160
historian you know

4268
02:47:28,469 --> 02:47:27,040
yeah he likes documents he's pragmatic

4269
02:47:30,630 --> 02:47:28,479
it's black and white give me the

4270
02:47:35,190 --> 02:47:30,640
evidence let's talk about the facts

4271
02:47:37,990 --> 02:47:35,200
and that's that's his approach

4272
02:47:38,389 --> 02:47:38,000
it's just cool that he's writing this

4273
02:47:40,790 --> 02:47:38,399
book

4274
02:47:43,110 --> 02:47:40,800
because i mean that is the subject you

4275
02:47:45,269 --> 02:47:43,120
know my experiences are what

4276
02:47:46,790 --> 02:47:45,279
led me to the subject in the first place

4277
02:47:49,030 --> 02:47:46,800
versus

4278
02:47:51,190 --> 02:47:49,040
you know just asking random asking

4279
02:47:52,550 --> 02:47:51,200
questions randomly trying to find things

4280
02:47:56,870 --> 02:47:52,560
out you know

4281
02:47:58,950 --> 02:47:56,880
so i you know and uh

4282
02:48:01,110 --> 02:47:58,960
he's one of the few you know most of the

4283
02:48:01,510 --> 02:48:01,120
stuff i've read about abductions tend to

4284
02:48:05,510 --> 02:48:01,520
be

4285
02:48:08,550 --> 02:48:05,520
abduction accounts from experiencers

4286
02:48:10,389 --> 02:48:08,560
and you know and so many of the people

4287
02:48:10,790 --> 02:48:10,399
who know that subject that were really

4288
02:48:13,830 --> 02:48:10,800
good

4289
02:48:16,150 --> 02:48:13,840
in it are not really like

4290
02:48:17,830 --> 02:48:16,160
bud hopkins is gone and john mack is

4291
02:48:24,309 --> 02:48:17,840
gone and

4292
02:48:25,510 --> 02:48:24,319
all those people that were discussing

4293
02:48:28,150 --> 02:48:25,520
these things what

4294
02:48:29,590 --> 02:48:28,160
these things were doing to people or i

4295
02:48:30,070 --> 02:48:29,600
mean you know whitney streepers still

4296
02:48:32,950 --> 02:48:30,080
around

4297
02:48:34,150 --> 02:48:32,960
but you know these are the but richard

4298
02:48:35,830 --> 02:48:34,160
dolan's

4299
02:48:38,870 --> 02:48:35,840
up there because he's kind of an

4300
02:48:43,110 --> 02:48:38,880
independent observer of the subject

4301
02:48:45,990 --> 02:48:43,120
in that sense you know and

4302
02:48:48,550 --> 02:48:46,000
uh no you're right it's not you're

4303
02:48:51,429 --> 02:48:48,560
you're really gonna enjoy the book

4304
02:48:52,309 --> 02:48:51,439
and there's information in there i'm not

4305
02:48:55,750 --> 02:48:52,319
going to give

4306
02:48:58,550 --> 02:48:55,760
anything away but uh the

4307
02:49:00,469 --> 02:48:58,560
the the stuff in there about abductions

4308
02:49:02,150 --> 02:49:00,479
and experiences from individuals

4309
02:49:04,070 --> 02:49:02,160
are cases that have never been public

4310
02:49:07,190 --> 02:49:04,080
before um

4311
02:49:10,230 --> 02:49:07,200
i i i know

4312
02:49:11,030 --> 02:49:10,240
a couple of these individuals and not

4313
02:49:14,790 --> 02:49:11,040
all of them

4314
02:49:15,750 --> 02:49:14,800
but but a few and these have never been

4315
02:49:18,710 --> 02:49:15,760
out there before

4316
02:49:19,510 --> 02:49:18,720
and it's it's it's new information and

4317
02:49:22,630 --> 02:49:19,520
it's also

4318
02:49:24,070 --> 02:49:22,640
coming from uh uh

4319
02:49:26,309 --> 02:49:24,080
it's more of a modern sense we're in

4320
02:49:28,790 --> 02:49:26,319
2020 right now and

4321
02:49:30,550 --> 02:49:28,800
everybody is going through what they are

4322
02:49:34,230 --> 02:49:30,560
going through on this planet

4323
02:49:37,670 --> 02:49:34,240
and richard wrote this book during

4324
02:49:39,910 --> 02:49:37,680
this craziness of this planet and

4325
02:49:41,590 --> 02:49:39,920
there's a there's a sense of that in

4326
02:49:42,389 --> 02:49:41,600
this book too and he talks about that a

4327
02:49:43,830 --> 02:49:42,399
little bit

4328
02:49:46,150 --> 02:49:43,840
but yeah you're really gonna enjoy it

4329
02:49:48,710 --> 02:49:46,160
nathan so go and pick it up and then uh

4330
02:49:49,349 --> 02:49:48,720
let me know what you think all right i

4331
02:49:51,910 --> 02:49:49,359
will

4332
02:49:53,030 --> 02:49:51,920
have a great night yeah be safe be safe

4333
02:49:55,349 --> 02:49:53,040
and uh

4334
02:49:56,469 --> 02:49:55,359
thank you for that and for somebody like

4335
02:49:59,590 --> 02:49:56,479
nathan

4336
02:50:02,309 --> 02:49:59,600
um and if you've had an experience

4337
02:50:02,710 --> 02:50:02,319
and you've wondered about this uh this

4338
02:50:05,830 --> 02:50:02,720
is

4339
02:50:07,590 --> 02:50:05,840
book because there

4340
02:50:09,510 --> 02:50:07,600
is so much additional information out

4341
02:50:13,190 --> 02:50:09,520
there that just quite simply

4342
02:50:15,830 --> 02:50:13,200
um i've i've i've read so much and

4343
02:50:18,150 --> 02:50:15,840
researched so much and for me to go in

4344
02:50:20,550 --> 02:50:18,160
uh to a book like this and and go wow

4345
02:50:22,790 --> 02:50:20,560
okay all right here we go

4346
02:50:24,710 --> 02:50:22,800
well there you go all right so the links

4347
02:50:25,830 --> 02:50:24,720
are over at jimmychurchradio.com

4348
02:50:29,349 --> 02:50:25,840
let's go back to the phones hi you're

4349
02:50:35,910 --> 02:50:33,190
shane sandler this is who

4350
02:50:38,150 --> 02:50:35,920
james james where are you calling from

4351
02:50:40,630 --> 02:50:38,160
james

4352
02:50:41,510 --> 02:50:40,640
um i'm calling i'm a recurring guest i

4353
02:50:43,670 --> 02:50:41,520
called last week

4354
02:50:45,269 --> 02:50:43,680
uh on the david schrader show talking

4355
02:50:47,510 --> 02:50:45,279
about life before death

4356
02:50:51,590 --> 02:50:47,520
okay okay what'd you think of the uh

4357
02:50:53,990 --> 02:50:51,600
conversation tonight with uh mr dolan

4358
02:50:55,990 --> 02:50:54,000
oh man i'm a big fan of richard doley

4359
02:50:59,349 --> 02:50:56,000
he's the greatest isn't it

4360
02:51:01,990 --> 02:50:59,359
it's uh he

4361
02:51:02,389 --> 02:51:02,000
well i think that we all recognize this

4362
02:51:06,150 --> 02:51:02,399
but

4363
02:51:07,830 --> 02:51:06,160
he is so respected um in our community

4364
02:51:11,030 --> 02:51:07,840
and outside of the community

4365
02:51:12,550 --> 02:51:11,040
but uh when we do conferences uh

4366
02:51:17,110 --> 02:51:12,560
throughout the year

4367
02:51:20,710 --> 02:51:17,120
um i usually if if i'm able to

4368
02:51:22,950 --> 02:51:20,720
uh i introduced i i introduced richard

4369
02:51:23,990 --> 02:51:22,960
and i say the same thing every single

4370
02:51:26,309 --> 02:51:24,000
time

4371
02:51:27,030 --> 02:51:26,319
sit and listen and it's an honor and a

4372
02:51:29,750 --> 02:51:27,040
privilege

4373
02:51:30,870 --> 02:51:29,760
that this man represents us and this

4374
02:51:33,510 --> 02:51:30,880
community

4375
02:51:34,870 --> 02:51:33,520
pay attention here's richard dolan and i

4376
02:51:36,230 --> 02:51:34,880
just get off the stage but i let

4377
02:51:39,429 --> 02:51:36,240
everybody know

4378
02:51:42,550 --> 02:51:39,439
what what i think and and the way that

4379
02:51:44,630 --> 02:51:42,560
uh this community should appreciate uh

4380
02:51:45,349 --> 02:51:44,640
what he has done for us uh over the last

4381
02:51:47,429 --> 02:51:45,359
20 years

4382
02:51:49,590 --> 02:51:47,439
what stood out in the uh conversation

4383
02:51:51,990 --> 02:51:49,600
tonight

4384
02:51:52,710 --> 02:51:52,000
uh i was wondering what what do you

4385
02:51:55,910 --> 02:51:52,720
think about

4386
02:51:58,790 --> 02:51:55,920
um that the whole the whole

4387
02:51:59,429 --> 02:51:58,800
how the whole alien agenda how how do

4388
02:52:08,070 --> 02:51:59,439
you

4389
02:52:09,910 --> 02:52:08,080
wonder that they stay like

4390
02:52:11,830 --> 02:52:09,920
like they live under the ocean like you

4391
02:52:15,190 --> 02:52:11,840
know like usos

4392
02:52:19,030 --> 02:52:15,200
well why not i mean that's part of it um

4393
02:52:21,190 --> 02:52:19,040
uh we've we know less about our ocean

4394
02:52:23,269 --> 02:52:21,200
than we do the moon

4395
02:52:24,630 --> 02:52:23,279
all right there's we've mapped five

4396
02:52:27,429 --> 02:52:24,640
percent of the ocean

4397
02:52:27,990 --> 02:52:27,439
right we don't know what's down there so

4398
02:52:30,710 --> 02:52:28,000
if you're gonna

4399
02:52:31,990 --> 02:52:30,720
hide hide in the water uh there's no

4400
02:52:34,630 --> 02:52:32,000
question about it

4401
02:52:35,910 --> 02:52:34,640
but there's another part there's another

4402
02:52:39,190 --> 02:52:35,920
part to this james

4403
02:52:43,990 --> 02:52:39,200
and i didn't really address it tonight

4404
02:52:47,830 --> 02:52:44,000
but there has to be

4405
02:52:50,870 --> 02:52:47,840
thousands tens of thousands

4406
02:52:54,070 --> 02:52:50,880
of civilizations that have

4407
02:52:57,190 --> 02:52:54,080
visited earth not one not

4408
02:52:57,990 --> 02:52:57,200
two not three not mantids and reptilians

4409
02:53:09,190 --> 02:52:58,000
and

4410
02:53:13,030 --> 02:53:09,200
uh no it

4411
02:53:16,230 --> 02:53:13,040
has got to be a number so big

4412
02:53:18,389 --> 02:53:16,240
that it'll blow your mind and so

4413
02:53:20,150 --> 02:53:18,399
the agendas what are they doing how are

4414
02:53:21,590 --> 02:53:20,160
they staying how many times have they

4415
02:53:23,910 --> 02:53:21,600
been here

4416
02:53:24,870 --> 02:53:23,920
every every situation is going to be a

4417
02:53:26,469 --> 02:53:24,880
unique one

4418
02:53:28,710 --> 02:53:26,479
and that's the way that i look at it you

4419
02:53:30,550 --> 02:53:28,720
can't look at it any other way there's

4420
02:53:33,590 --> 02:53:30,560
too much life out there in the universe

4421
02:53:37,510 --> 02:53:33,600
and richard said one thing james tonight

4422
02:53:41,269 --> 02:53:37,520
that was very profound and he said

4423
02:53:42,710 --> 02:53:41,279
a lot of these are probably here for the

4424
02:53:47,510 --> 02:53:42,720
first time

4425
02:53:49,269 --> 02:53:47,520
and maybe it'll be their only time

4426
02:53:51,750 --> 02:53:49,279
and the reason why you have to look at

4427
02:53:55,269 --> 02:53:51,760
it that way they've got to move on

4428
02:53:56,550 --> 02:53:55,279
and continue to explore the trillions of

4429
02:54:01,269 --> 02:53:56,560
other planets

4430
02:54:04,230 --> 02:54:01,279
in our milky way not in the universe

4431
02:54:05,670 --> 02:54:04,240
just like right here you know and it

4432
02:54:07,190 --> 02:54:05,680
takes time

4433
02:54:08,870 --> 02:54:07,200
you know so are you going to come back

4434
02:54:12,469 --> 02:54:08,880
for repeat visits yeah sure

4435
02:54:15,030 --> 02:54:12,479
a lot do most probably don't they do a

4436
02:54:17,510 --> 02:54:15,040
drive-by they take a soil sample

4437
02:54:18,550 --> 02:54:17,520
they grab a couple of horses grab a

4438
02:54:22,150 --> 02:54:18,560
couple of humans

4439
02:54:25,110 --> 02:54:22,160
throw them me that ship and said split

4440
02:54:26,870 --> 02:54:25,120
and and and and that's that's the that's

4441
02:54:29,030 --> 02:54:26,880
the way that i look at it james

4442
02:54:30,550 --> 02:54:29,040
enjoy the rest of your night and we'll

4443
02:54:32,630 --> 02:54:30,560
see you tomorrow right here with uh

4444
02:54:35,349 --> 02:54:32,640
linda moulton howe

4445
02:54:37,590 --> 02:54:35,359
oh i love linda all right thank you yeah

4446
02:54:41,110 --> 02:54:37,600
absolutely we'll see you tomorrow night

4447
02:54:43,910 --> 02:54:41,120
um i'm not playing around with that

4448
02:54:45,590 --> 02:54:43,920
i am being very serious the number has

4449
02:54:48,870 --> 02:54:45,600
got to be

4450
02:54:52,790 --> 02:54:48,880
tens of thousands

4451
02:54:55,990 --> 02:54:52,800
over millions of years maybe even longer

4452
02:54:57,349 --> 02:54:56,000
and that's there's no other way uh to

4453
02:54:59,429 --> 02:54:57,359
look at it than that

4454
02:55:00,950 --> 02:54:59,439
that's it that's it that's why no two

4455
02:55:03,750 --> 02:55:00,960
ships are the same

4456
02:55:05,190 --> 02:55:03,760
right similar okay so that's a repeat

4457
02:55:06,389 --> 02:55:05,200
visit that's another it's a repeat

4458
02:55:11,030 --> 02:55:06,399
drive-by

4459
02:55:15,429 --> 02:55:11,040
but uh no it just has to be that way

4460
02:55:16,630 --> 02:55:15,439
it does i'm really never gonna change

4461
02:55:18,950 --> 02:55:16,640
let's go back to the phones how you're

4462
02:55:20,710 --> 02:55:18,960
live on fade to black who's calling

4463
02:55:21,990 --> 02:55:20,720
hi jimmy it's lafayette from court to

4464
02:55:23,830 --> 02:55:22,000
melissa california

4465
02:55:25,990 --> 02:55:23,840
hey lafayette how much coffee have you

4466
02:55:29,910 --> 02:55:26,000
had tonight

4467
02:55:31,429 --> 02:55:29,920
it's choline and lion's mane mushrooms

4468
02:55:33,190 --> 02:55:31,439
um

4469
02:55:34,710 --> 02:55:33,200
keep my thoughts straight you know does

4470
02:55:36,240 --> 02:55:34,720
that orange guard work on the mantas

4471
02:55:38,790 --> 02:55:36,250
because i may need some after this

4472
02:55:40,389 --> 02:55:38,800
[Laughter]

4473
02:55:41,990 --> 02:55:40,399
you're pretty funny man that's that's

4474
02:55:45,190 --> 02:55:42,000
pretty good probably

4475
02:55:48,309 --> 02:55:45,200
uh it probably would

4476
02:55:50,630 --> 02:55:48,319
for certain certain ones

4477
02:55:52,710 --> 02:55:50,640
so i got two two two things for you one

4478
02:55:53,750 --> 02:55:52,720
on the timeline of the mantad visits and

4479
02:55:55,110 --> 02:55:53,760
the other one on the age of

4480
02:55:58,230 --> 02:55:55,120
civilizations

4481
02:56:01,269 --> 02:55:58,240
now they probably came in 52

4482
02:56:02,630 --> 02:56:01,279
000 years ago and again 13 000 years ago

4483
02:56:04,870 --> 02:56:02,640
since they're doing breeding they're

4484
02:56:06,550 --> 02:56:04,880
probably following darwinism survival of

4485
02:56:07,910 --> 02:56:06,560
the fittest and there were pole shifts

4486
02:56:09,429 --> 02:56:07,920
right after they came

4487
02:56:11,030 --> 02:56:09,439
so we're headed for a pole shift they're

4488
02:56:12,230 --> 02:56:11,040
probably hoping some of their upgrades

4489
02:56:14,389 --> 02:56:12,240
will survive it

4490
02:56:15,830 --> 02:56:14,399
and the second thing on the age of

4491
02:56:17,750 --> 02:56:15,840
civilizations

4492
02:56:19,429 --> 02:56:17,760
as i said before they're skipping

4493
02:56:21,110 --> 02:56:19,439
through time the mounted we see may be

4494
02:56:22,070 --> 02:56:21,120
the same ones that were here 50 000

4495
02:56:24,630 --> 02:56:22,080
years ago and

4496
02:56:25,990 --> 02:56:24,640
it's only a couple weeks to them because

4497
02:56:27,269 --> 02:56:26,000
they're only here for a brief period of

4498
02:56:29,190 --> 02:56:27,279
time and then they're gone

4499
02:56:30,710 --> 02:56:29,200
just like ghosts and let me explain a

4500
02:56:33,030 --> 02:56:30,720
model for how this might work

4501
02:56:34,550 --> 02:56:33,040
sure space is curved yeah or it might

4502
02:56:36,630 --> 02:56:34,560
actually be pleated

4503
02:56:37,830 --> 02:56:36,640
imagine your curtains on a window where

4504
02:56:41,190 --> 02:56:37,840
up and down is

4505
02:56:43,030 --> 02:56:41,200
is space and from side to side is time

4506
02:56:44,870 --> 02:56:43,040
so you pull your curtains back and

4507
02:56:46,150 --> 02:56:44,880
they're all bunched up and pleated and

4508
02:56:48,389 --> 02:56:46,160
you run a needle

4509
02:56:49,349 --> 02:56:48,399
through it a needle is like a ghost or a

4510
02:56:52,309 --> 02:56:49,359
ufo

4511
02:56:53,750 --> 02:56:52,319
it only appears occasionally in that

4512
02:56:56,150 --> 02:56:53,760
pleating

4513
02:56:57,349 --> 02:56:56,160
so uh and like and i say a needle and

4514
02:56:58,870 --> 02:56:57,359
you screw it through

4515
02:57:00,309 --> 02:56:58,880
on one pleat it'll be turning one way

4516
02:57:01,750 --> 02:57:00,319
and another key will be turning the

4517
02:57:03,429 --> 02:57:01,760
other way just like a particle or some

4518
02:57:04,469 --> 02:57:03,439
anti-particle they're living outside of

4519
02:57:07,349 --> 02:57:04,479
our time

4520
02:57:08,550 --> 02:57:07,359
and they're screwing around in it well

4521
02:57:11,910 --> 02:57:08,560
of course

4522
02:57:15,910 --> 02:57:11,920
there is no way the the uh

4523
02:57:19,510 --> 02:57:15,920
the the idea

4524
02:57:22,870 --> 02:57:19,520
the theory a hundred years ago before

4525
02:57:27,110 --> 02:57:22,880
general and special relativity okay

4526
02:57:30,630 --> 02:57:27,120
the general thought was

4527
02:57:34,230 --> 02:57:30,640
time is the same for everything

4528
02:57:36,309 --> 02:57:34,240
everybody everywhere it's it it's linear

4529
02:57:37,429 --> 02:57:36,319
it's it's no different no matter where

4530
02:57:40,389 --> 02:57:37,439
you go what you do

4531
02:57:42,230 --> 02:57:40,399
right well uh einstein comes along and

4532
02:57:45,349 --> 02:57:42,240
certainly messes that up

4533
02:57:48,790 --> 02:57:45,359
and now when you bring in uh gravity

4534
02:57:50,150 --> 02:57:48,800
and space time and the slowing down or

4535
02:57:52,070 --> 02:57:50,160
the speeding up of time

4536
02:57:53,590 --> 02:57:52,080
as you go through space and that space

4537
02:57:57,030 --> 02:57:53,600
is a fabric and

4538
02:58:00,150 --> 02:57:57,040
and and things are changing well um

4539
02:58:01,510 --> 02:58:00,160
like your pleats by the way okay so if

4540
02:58:03,349 --> 02:58:01,520
that's the case

4541
02:58:05,349 --> 02:58:03,359
and i do believe that it is i think

4542
02:58:05,670 --> 02:58:05,359
there's enough evidence there to suggest

4543
02:58:09,269 --> 02:58:05,680
that

4544
02:58:11,590 --> 02:58:09,279
just with gps systems and and

4545
02:58:12,550 --> 02:58:11,600
gravity with our sun and earth and the

4546
02:58:15,910 --> 02:58:12,560
moon

4547
02:58:18,950 --> 02:58:15,920
um how gravity affects uh

4548
02:58:22,070 --> 02:58:18,960
time that's it right exactly right the

4549
02:58:23,670 --> 02:58:22,080
time is different time is different in

4550
02:58:24,790 --> 02:58:23,680
your basement than it is on the first

4551
02:58:28,309 --> 02:58:24,800
floor of your house

4552
02:58:31,269 --> 02:58:28,319
let alone heading out into space but

4553
02:58:32,389 --> 02:58:31,279
but putting that aside different

4554
02:58:35,750 --> 02:58:32,399
civilizations

4555
02:58:39,990 --> 02:58:35,760
out there are running in

4556
02:58:43,110 --> 02:58:40,000
their own time their own time their

4557
02:58:44,630 --> 02:58:43,120
their their year i'm just going to say a

4558
02:58:45,510 --> 02:58:44,640
year so everybody can understand what

4559
02:58:49,910 --> 02:58:45,520
i'm saying

4560
02:58:53,269 --> 02:58:49,920
their year could be our minute

4561
02:58:57,510 --> 02:58:53,279
and and to be able to

4562
02:58:58,230 --> 02:58:57,520
see right that frequency that they are

4563
02:59:00,469 --> 02:58:58,240
on

4564
02:59:02,309 --> 02:59:00,479
we may not have that ability and that it

4565
02:59:04,150 --> 02:59:02,319
goes that not only goes with the

4566
02:59:04,550 --> 02:59:04,160
physical side but what about sound what

4567
02:59:09,429 --> 02:59:04,560
about

4568
02:59:12,550 --> 02:59:09,439
or a radio signal that is

4569
02:59:15,750 --> 02:59:12,560
absolutely broadcast on a different

4570
02:59:16,389 --> 02:59:15,760
time scale that is not exactly the same

4571
02:59:18,710 --> 02:59:16,399
as ours

4572
02:59:20,790 --> 02:59:18,720
and it just blows past it we don't see

4573
02:59:22,710 --> 02:59:20,800
it we're not even aware of it

4574
02:59:24,469 --> 02:59:22,720
because it's not in our frequency it's

4575
02:59:27,990 --> 02:59:24,479
not in our parallel world

4576
02:59:30,630 --> 02:59:28,000
it's not it's not even here for us so

4577
02:59:32,150 --> 02:59:30,640
i absolutely agree with that and it has

4578
02:59:34,469 --> 02:59:32,160
to be that way

4579
02:59:35,269 --> 02:59:34,479
it has to well like in the in the travis

4580
02:59:36,950 --> 02:59:35,279
walton case

4581
02:59:39,030 --> 02:59:36,960
he was only gone for a few hours but it

4582
02:59:41,269 --> 02:59:39,040
was like five days here

4583
02:59:42,870 --> 02:59:41,279
yeah well that's yeah that was so funny

4584
02:59:43,830 --> 02:59:42,880
you know how long have i been gone i'm

4585
02:59:46,469 --> 02:59:43,840
sorry i'm

4586
02:59:46,870 --> 02:59:46,479
you know 60 minutes am i late for dinner

4587
02:59:49,910 --> 02:59:46,880
right

4588
02:59:53,110 --> 02:59:49,920
dude you were gone for five days what

4589
02:59:55,190 --> 02:59:53,120
that's why i'm thirsty same thing with

4590
02:59:56,790 --> 02:59:55,200
rip van winkle with the elven story and

4591
02:59:57,750 --> 02:59:56,800
the fairies and stuff they're on a

4592
02:59:59,750 --> 02:59:57,760
different timeline

4593
03:00:01,190 --> 02:59:59,760
they're only skipping in and out of here

4594
03:00:03,030 --> 03:00:01,200
and that's why there's there's a

4595
03:00:04,469 --> 03:00:03,040
also a youtube video on why we're

4596
03:00:07,269 --> 03:00:04,479
probably surrounded

4597
03:00:07,750 --> 03:00:07,279
by older alien civilizations the odds

4598
03:00:09,269 --> 03:00:07,760
are like

4599
03:00:10,710 --> 03:00:09,279
three to one that they're going and he

4600
03:00:10,950 --> 03:00:10,720
uses all this math and it's really good

4601
03:00:14,150 --> 03:00:10,960
he

4602
03:00:16,870 --> 03:00:14,160
did a paper i can't remember his name um

4603
03:00:18,710 --> 03:00:16,880
so probably most aliens around us are

4604
03:00:20,710 --> 03:00:18,720
ahead of us

4605
03:00:23,349 --> 03:00:20,720
they would have to be logically no they

4606
03:00:26,150 --> 03:00:23,359
would have to be they would have to be

4607
03:00:26,469 --> 03:00:26,160
it doesn't matter how you slice it up if

4608
03:00:29,830 --> 03:00:26,479
you

4609
03:00:31,670 --> 03:00:29,840
go to the closest stars to us

4610
03:00:33,670 --> 03:00:31,680
whether it's you know four and a half

4611
03:00:35,110 --> 03:00:33,680
light years away or 20 light years or

4612
03:00:37,910 --> 03:00:35,120
100 light years away

4613
03:00:38,309 --> 03:00:37,920
that's a hundred light years what you

4614
03:00:42,389 --> 03:00:38,319
are

4615
03:00:44,550 --> 03:00:42,399
looking at is the old version

4616
03:00:46,550 --> 03:00:44,560
right the light that is getting to us

4617
03:00:49,429 --> 03:00:46,560
that's the past

4618
03:00:50,790 --> 03:00:49,439
that's not the current version of what

4619
03:00:53,510 --> 03:00:50,800
is there

4620
03:00:54,070 --> 03:00:53,520
right that is exactly that's the past

4621
03:00:57,349 --> 03:00:54,080
and

4622
03:01:00,710 --> 03:00:57,359
uh them looking at us

4623
03:01:02,469 --> 03:01:00,720
it's the same thing so if they are

4624
03:01:04,550 --> 03:01:02,479
10 000 light years away and they're

4625
03:01:06,870 --> 03:01:04,560
looking at earth in a telescope

4626
03:01:08,230 --> 03:01:06,880
they're looking at earth 10 000 years

4627
03:01:11,590 --> 03:01:08,240
ago they don't see

4628
03:01:12,309 --> 03:01:11,600
you and i talking on the radio right no

4629
03:01:16,150 --> 03:01:12,319
they don't see

4630
03:01:17,830 --> 03:01:16,160
that they're looking at the ice age

4631
03:01:19,750 --> 03:01:17,840
right do you do you follow what i'm

4632
03:01:21,670 --> 03:01:19,760
saying and it's the same thing for us

4633
03:01:22,710 --> 03:01:21,680
yeah it's a crazy thing to wrap your

4634
03:01:24,309 --> 03:01:22,720
head around

4635
03:01:25,990 --> 03:01:24,319
uh when you look at because we think

4636
03:01:27,030 --> 03:01:26,000
that we're looking at everything in the

4637
03:01:30,710 --> 03:01:27,040
same

4638
03:01:33,030 --> 03:01:30,720
uh time space right that

4639
03:01:34,630 --> 03:01:33,040
the modern version of us so they must be

4640
03:01:35,190 --> 03:01:34,640
if they're looking at us they're looking

4641
03:01:38,230 --> 03:01:35,200
at

4642
03:01:38,870 --> 03:01:38,240
earth with lights and cars and and the

4643
03:01:42,070 --> 03:01:38,880
internet

4644
03:01:45,269 --> 03:01:42,080
and and iphones they're not

4645
03:01:47,110 --> 03:01:45,279
they're looking at if it's 10 20 000

4646
03:01:48,389 --> 03:01:47,120
light years away they're looking at an

4647
03:01:51,590 --> 03:01:48,399
earth that um

4648
03:01:52,950 --> 03:01:51,600
is stone age man right that's that's

4649
03:01:55,990 --> 03:01:52,960
what they're looking at it's it's

4650
03:01:57,429 --> 03:01:56,000
it's it it messes with my head lafayette

4651
03:02:00,469 --> 03:01:57,439
thank you so much man we'll see you

4652
03:02:03,030 --> 03:02:00,479
tomorrow night with linda multan behave

4653
03:02:04,550 --> 03:02:03,040
thank you so much have a good one jimmy

4654
03:02:05,349 --> 03:02:04,560
you too that's a great phone call right

4655
03:02:07,670 --> 03:02:05,359
there

4656
03:02:08,870 --> 03:02:07,680
lafayette and with that i got to get out

4657
03:02:10,950 --> 03:02:08,880
of here what a great conversation

4658
03:02:11,990 --> 03:02:10,960
tonight i do want to thank richard bleep

4659
03:02:14,950 --> 03:02:12,000
and dolan

4660
03:02:15,990 --> 03:02:14,960
what a great show the book is easy and

4661
03:02:18,110 --> 03:02:16,000
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4662
03:02:19,670 --> 03:02:18,120
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4663
03:02:21,349 --> 03:02:19,680
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4664
03:02:23,190 --> 03:02:21,359
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4665
03:02:26,150 --> 03:02:23,200
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4666
03:02:28,150 --> 03:02:26,160
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4667
03:02:29,750 --> 03:02:28,160
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4668
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4669
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4670
03:02:35,030 --> 03:02:33,359
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4671
03:02:37,110 --> 03:02:35,040
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4672
03:02:38,230 --> 03:02:37,120
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4673
03:02:41,750 --> 03:02:38,240
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4674
03:02:43,910 --> 03:02:41,760
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4675
03:02:45,670 --> 03:02:43,920
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4676
03:02:47,670 --> 03:02:45,680
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4677
03:02:49,750 --> 03:02:47,680
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4678
03:02:51,990 --> 03:02:49,760
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4679
03:02:53,830 --> 03:02:52,000
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4680
03:02:55,590 --> 03:02:53,840
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4681
03:02:57,110 --> 03:02:55,600
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4682
03:02:59,110 --> 03:02:57,120
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4683
03:03:00,389 --> 03:02:59,120
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4684
03:03:01,910 --> 03:03:00,399
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4685
03:03:05,990 --> 03:03:01,920
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4686
03:03:08,469 --> 03:03:06,000
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4687
03:03:10,309 --> 03:03:08,479
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4688
03:03:11,960 --> 03:03:10,319
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4689
03:03:24,830 --> 03:03:11,970
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4690
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